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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by sheeshkebab »

Markoff wrote: post #127
sheeshkebab wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s holidays but I noticed my twitter feed getting filled up lately with various far right types posting crap. I guess these idiots were always there but somehow they were drawn out by saner content that I care about, not anymore it seems. I’ll probably delete twitter too if that’s the way it will continue on after another a couple of weeks.

I welcome this for change from far left woke crap dominating whole platform for years with any opposition against them silenced. In free platform you read crap from all sides, not just the one you like. But enjoy your new echo chamber outside Twitter. edit: for downvoters, yes, I'm aware this describes also majority of HN users and you just can't stand different opinion and try to silence it, thanks for proving me ri…

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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by MikusR »

sheeshkebab wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s holidays but I noticed my twitter feed getting filled up lately with various far right types posting crap. I guess these idiots were always there but somehow they were drawn out by saner content that I care about, not anymore it seems. I’ll probably delete twitter too if that’s the way it will continue on after another a couple of weeks.

Twitter feed has only the people you follow.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by Hamcha »

leereeves wrote: post #137
raphlinus wrote: post #3

I've also moved from Twitter to Mastodon, for the same reasons, and have a similar experience - the raw follower count is still a fraction as before, but a lot of interesting people I want to connect with are already there. And the feeling is... very different. There was lots about Twitter that subtly enraged me, like pop-sci Covid takes showing up in my algorithmic feed after I had extremely carefully curated my fol…

The noise you want to get away from is on Twitter because that's where the target audience is. If everyone moves to Mastodon, all the noise will move to Mastodon too. But it is wonderful to be part of a niche community that hasn't yet been noticed by astroturfers, advertisers, politicians, and self-promoters (just like HN).

They might try, but the beauty is that in most instances the leadership is not motivated by engagement metrics and advertisements but just people wanting to stick together. Kinda like the glory days of IRC.

Re: Bye, Twitter

#144

Post by xiphias2 »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #23

The way people carefully curate their own little filter bubbles on purpose is insane to me. As an adult, why would you never want to be exposed to viewpoints that differ from your own? That's not healthy. Edit: I'm mostly referring to those that also regularly publish their opinions assuming for others to read them.

Because quite often people with an agenda are trending, usually very selective about what they say about people.

The start of this article is a great example: Elon was always voting democrat, but the left (progressive) side has changed/progressed enought that Elon's viewpoints are considered right right now (it has been the same for me as I got older).

It still doesn't make him an extreme right person, even if people can (and do) find the few moments in his life that can be considered extremist (which everybody has, just most people hide it).

At some point looking at those other viewpoints and finding whether there's a hidden agenda just gets tiring and boring.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by chris_wot »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #73
chris_wot wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there are many abusive people. If you could exclude only trolls and abusers easily on Twitter then I’d think you’d have less curation going on. But there isn’t so to protect themselves, people curate. It’s either that or leave that platform. I did this with Facebook and never got involved with Twitter. My life is great. I get plenty of opinions I don’t agree with on HN, and it’s great.

The unhealthy part is people who curate an echo chamber and then live in it. Of course, the even healthier thing is probably being more like you and just not getting involved with Twitter at all.

Don’t disagree.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by davidgerard »

MikusR wrote: post #142
sheeshkebab wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s holidays but I noticed my twitter feed getting filled up lately with various far right types posting crap. I guess these idiots were always there but somehow they were drawn out by saner content that I care about, not anymore it seems. I’ll probably delete twitter too if that’s the way it will continue on after another a couple of weeks.

Twitter feed has only the people you follow.

you've never used twitter, have you

Re: Bye, Twitter

#147

Post by davidgerard »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #23

The way people carefully curate their own little filter bubbles on purpose is insane to me. As an adult, why would you never want to be exposed to viewpoints that differ from your own? That's not healthy. Edit: I'm mostly referring to those that also regularly publish their opinions assuming for others to read them.

achieving a "filter bubble" would be a remarkable achievement.

in practice, you can absolutely get your daily ration of poop on social media just by showing up.

Re: Bye, Twitter

#148

Post by dorkwood »

MikusR wrote: post #142
sheeshkebab wrote: post #36

Maybe it’s holidays but I noticed my twitter feed getting filled up lately with various far right types posting crap. I guess these idiots were always there but somehow they were drawn out by saner content that I care about, not anymore it seems. I’ll probably delete twitter too if that’s the way it will continue on after another a couple of weeks.

Twitter feed has only the people you follow.

That hasn't been true for a while. I regularly see tweets by people who have no connection to the accounts I follow. They'll often have accompanying tags like "Sports" or "Cryptocurrency" above their name, as if Twitter has decided I'm interested in these topics.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by BulgarianIdiot »

leereeves wrote: post #136
suzzer99 wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon has been interacting a lot with guys like Andy Ngo and Ian Miles Cheong. I refuse to believe he's unaware of who they are. https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1596344634443431937

I personally (second hand, from someone who worked in a prison) know of a man who was imprisoned because he had sex with his 17 year old GF when he was 19. I've heard about teenagers being prosecuted for taking nude photos of themselves [1] or to share with other teenage friends [2]. If your worst charge against Ian Miles Cheong is that he correctly pointed out draconian enforcement of these laws, then you're on the…

It is bizarre when a law designed to protect you becomes so it extreme, it actually harms you. But it's true.

Another example is the insane ways in which "zero-COVID" policies are enforced in China, resulting in probably more deaths than if they were a lot more lenient (at this point).

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by throw0101c »

jsnell wrote: post #119
throw0101c wrote: post #85

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> Nice. I've always been a firm believer that you haven't _really_ left a platform unless you first make a blog post loudly proclaiming that you're _definitely leaving_ but this guy takes it a few steps further by: "This guy" is Tim Bray, who quit as a VP of AWS over its treatment of employees: * https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tim-bray-quit-amazon-web-se... * https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2020/04/29/Leavi…

> He has principles and he's willing to put himself out there for them. He thinks that Twitter is despicable but will still continue to use it to promote his blog. That's not having principles and sticking to them. That's selling out for cheap, and coming up with a lame justification for it.

He's been writing his weblog since before Twitter existed:

* https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/199x/

* https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/

He doesn't need (to use) Twitter to promote anything. If he was willing to sell out, cheaply or not, he would have kept his AWS job.

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