He wasn't the founder of Waze, he was the CEO.
Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
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Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#142Sounds awful. I don't go on Twitter to "learn" from my betters (presumably, the founder includes himself in that category).
If you look at FTX, you have these supposed "journalists" quoting from "Autism Capital" on Twitter...that is where their sources are. I am guessing "Autism Capital" is some random guy, in his mom's bedroom, making no money from this...and there are journalists taking down $80k/year just ripping stories from that.
The question this should raise is: why do we need the journalists? These people are pointless, they don't have interesting opinions, they are just information tollgates, Twitter removes that friction totally (equally, I worked in finance, I started working just before the Twitter age and assumed that everyone else was very diligent/knowledgeable/doing lots of good research...and then all these people hopped onto Twitter, start outputting more information, and you realise they are just total idiots...which I also realised after working in the industry, Twitter exposes the man behind the curtain).
Give me the anonymous cesspit. If it makes you mad and upset, don't go on there, that is on you. The doctor can't be blamed for the needle being sharp.
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb [...] To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. The "upside" for users who post/write is reaching larger audiences . Similar reasons for mass audience "broadcast" platforms like Twitter, Youtube, TikTok. Small islands of decentralized communities (USENET newsgroups, dial-up BBS, vBulletin/phpBB forum websites, this HN webs…
What makes Mastodon not able to accomplish this?
Key technical decisions made early on kneecap its ability to be performant and to scale to anything approaching Twitter's userbase size, if instances want to still be part of the fediverse.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the past two weeks, the Mastodon-compatible parts of the Fediverse have gone from 600K active users to 7M active users. George Takei and Elvira are on Mastodon. We'll see how things develop, but this doesn't feel niche anymore.
It's one thing to get users. It's another to keep them. Mastodon's user experience is godawful. It might be an IRC replacement for nerds, but it'll never be Twitter.
I've found Mastodon's UI to be so vastly superior to Twitter that it isn't even funny. Volunteers are running circles around Twitter's UI team.
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#145We've already got a replacement that's owned and administered by users, with no ads, that can't be bought and ruined by billionaires: Mastodon. The ex-twitter employees are already running their own server: macaw.social
It’s sounds like everyone has to join specific servers or something. That will never work, it’s too complicated. You need one server that everyone is on.
Having "one server that everyone is on" is precisely what we don't need. Twitter sucks because it's a single room dominated by a bunch of shouting jagoffs, and "that, but federated" isn't any better. Mastodon is nicer because your home instance is small and intimate.
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I’m fed up with “platforms”. Growing a garden on someone else’s land is dumb [...] To top it off, there’s very little upside to you as a user. The "upside" for users who post/write is reaching larger audiences . Similar reasons for mass audience "broadcast" platforms like Twitter, Youtube, TikTok. Small islands of decentralized communities (USENET newsgroups, dial-up BBS, vBulletin/phpBB forum websites, this HN webs…
> Small islands of decentralized communities (USENET newsgroups, dial-up BBS, vBulletin/phpBB forum websites, this HN website, and recent Mastodon interest, etc) do not accomplish the same thing. Not true; you can build and own your own "island" and grow the population of your "island" to be quite large. This can and does happen quite regularly. It's the only sensible thing to do, really, if you want to build a susta…
Why should people populate your island when the smart thing to do is make their own?
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#147With Twitter usage apparently climbing, why is this important? Is the general assumption that Musk is ruining or wrecking Twitter accurate?
>Twitter usage apparently climbing, Over what timeframe? If only recently, are people joining just to rip the piss, and play with the muskovites?
And according to whom? Musk, who has no legal, economic, or moral incentive to be truthful?
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Oh fine, I'll articulate why. Musk doesn't know what he has bought. He seems to think it's a technology company. It's not. It's an advertising business mixed up with a social platform. Those don't require lots of brains, in fact Twitter is already built and works. The what the likes of Twitter require to be successful is the willingness to carefully navigate a bunch of minefields and come up with compromises that mak…
>It's clear that Twitter is going down the drain sooner or later because Musk exceeded the limits of his competence.
I don't think it's a question of competence. Musk bought a company that was already losing billions, and saddled it with debt and billions of interest payments per year. His recent actions also cost near-term ad-revenue loss, thereby further amplifying losses.
As bad as those things are, in-and-of themselves, they don't represent an existential crisis.
The problem is that he actually cannot afford to float Twitter until such time that the company becomes profitable (if ever). Hence the drastic cost-cutting measures.
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#149> "Remember when it didn't waste your time and make you angry or sad?" Nostalgia alert. Social media used to provide 100% value all the time? Trolls didn't exist 10 years ago? "Rational debates" were thriving with a 140 character limit? When Twitter became a resource for learning about research on Covid and coverage of protests worldwide - surely subjects that would be fair game on "Post"[0] - I was certainly getting…
It's the fake past, like back in the day when people actually cared about craftsmanship, customer service, and their lawns, and weren't so offended all the time or so scared of hard work.
Re: Waze Founder Noam Bardin is starting up a Twitter alternative
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh fine, I'll articulate why. Musk doesn't know what he has bought. He seems to think it's a technology company. It's not. It's an advertising business mixed up with a social platform. Those don't require lots of brains, in fact Twitter is already built and works. The what the likes of Twitter require to be successful is the willingness to carefully navigate a bunch of minefields and come up with compromises that mak…
>It's clear that Twitter is going down the drain sooner or later because Musk exceeded the limits of his competence. I don't think it's a question of competence. Musk bought a company that was already losing billions, and saddled it with debt and billions of interest payments per year. His recent actions also cost near-term ad-revenue loss, thereby further amplifying losses. As bad as those things are, in-and-of them…
> I don't think it's a question of competence. Musk bought a company that was already losing billions, and saddled it with debt and billions of interest payments per year.
That's incompetence
> His recent actions also cost near-term ad-revenue, thereby further amplifying losses.
And so is that.
> As bad as those things are, in-and-of themselves, they don't represent an existential crisis.
Why not? I mean, maybe it'll keep existing for a while still, but given how it's starting, how is it going to get any better? It seems clear that the current trend is steeply downhill. So anybody who thinks alternatives are needed would do well starting to look for them, or starting to work on one.