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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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This is more about a breakdown in the rule of law. The DA wasn't prosecuting and the police weren't arresting. Blaming it on "inequality" feels like a cop out for the criminals. There are plenty of ways to get by in the world without resorting to theft. It's a lifestyle choice more than it's any significant source of income. Stealing a loaf of bread to feed your family is one thing. Virtually all of the theft in SF i…

  The DA wasn't prosecuting
Boudin prosecuted a higher percentage of cases than Jenkins. In fact Jenkins dropped a number of cases that Boudin brought and she disbanded the group investigating and prosecuting corruption within SFPD ranks.

  the police weren't arresting.
This, however, is completely true and hasn't changed since Breed installed her pick for DA. Let's not forget that Breed required pre-signed resignation letters from all of her appointees, and has controlled any messaging from the DA's office with an iron fist.

https://sfist.com/2022/03/04/boudins-office-releases-2021-pr...

  Per Boudin’s office, the findings show a hard-working, hard-prosecuting DA.
  “The District Attorney’s Office filed charges in 57% of arrests presented by
  police in 2021, the highest filing rate in the ten years the DA’s Office has
  been tracking this data,” the report states. As seen above, that statistic
  cites an “action rate” on suspects higher than it’s been in ten years, and a
  “discharged without further action” rate lower than it’s ever been over that
  period.
No tricks, no "doublethink", no "he would've been prosecuted but for restorative justice". Boudin prosecuted the cases brought to him at a higher rate than his predecessors (and successor). Let's not forget what this is really about: Boudin prosecuted cops, Jenkins does not.

https://sfbayview.com/2022/10/interim-da-brooke-jenkins-pois...

https://missionlocal.org/2022/10/lawyer-jenkins-stalling-hom...

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Walking around (nearly any part of) San Francisco day or night with a toddler is no problem at all, but don’t leave a backpack sitting on your car’s passenger seat if you don’t want your window smashed. The problem is property crimes not violent crime. One of the main issues is that the SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything, and more or less laugh at you if you ask for their help.

> One of the main issues is that the SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything. Isn’t this a direct effect of the DA refusing to prosecute? What’s the point of police getting involved if the crime isn’t even considered a crime by the prosecutor?

No, the cops didn’t suddenly magically change after Boudin was elected (and recalled). They don’t care.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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What is the rate for other big cities? Is this a lot higher than usual, or only a little higher? The thing is that people steal things everywhere. Bikes. Cigarette lighters. Money left out. Scam items off Amazon or eBay is a form of theft. Your beer at parties. Lawn gnomes. I don’t know many people anywhere who haven’t had something stolen from them at some point, so I’m not sure what this is saying

I don’t think I’ve had any theft incidents in many years in Seattle.

I live in Seattle and I don’t think I personally know anyone here who hasn’t had something of theirs stolen. Mostly cars broken into, bikes stolen, things stolen out of their yard.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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It's still cheaper than incarceration, which apparently costs $64K in 2015[0]. [0] https://www.vera.org/publications/price-of-prisons-2015-stat...

It costs as much in California, because of activism that deliberately makes it more expensive than necessary and then claims that it is too expensive to make sense. California could strike a deal with Kentucky, Oklahoma, or Nevada to send their prisoners there at half the price it costs to incarcerate them in California, and save billions while allowing the destination states to make very nice profit as well. Of cour…

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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Walking around (nearly any part of) San Francisco day or night with a toddler is no problem at all, but don’t leave a backpack sitting on your car’s passenger seat if you don’t want your window smashed. The problem is property crimes not violent crime. One of the main issues is that the SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything, and more or less laugh at you if you ask for their help.

> One of the main issues is that the SF police are unwilling to lift a finger about nearly anything. Isn’t this a direct effect of the DA refusing to prosecute? What’s the point of police getting involved if the crime isn’t even considered a crime by the prosecutor?

No. The DA was only there for two years and this level of police incompetence has been a fixture of the city for at least the past 15.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

#150

I live in northern Virginia, and I have never been a victim of theft. If this poll is correct, that amount of theft is insane. Regardless of the causes, this seems like a pretty serious problem.

NoVA is more like Palo Alto than SF. DC proper is a different vibe
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