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Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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"And in a country where e.g. homosexuality is illegal this kind of stuff presents additional dangers beyond compromising your privacy." What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? You are in danger in any country if you entry it with the intent of breaking the laws.

What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? In order to do that you'd need to know the laws of the country because ignorance of the law is not a defence. I imagine very few football fans are reading up on Quatar's legal system. So, really, trying to stay within the law is probably very hard, especially if you go there with a set of Western values. As a simple example, Qatar has law about "public mor…

> As a simple example, Qatar has law about "public morals" where showing too much skin is considered indecent

Maybe that's just a bad example, but without knowing exactly how much skin is tolerated, that's just a normal law pretty much everywhere.

Does your country allow public nudity on stadiums and on public streets? If not, you've got the same law in your country... without knowing the "threashold" it's hard to say the Qatar law is unusual even compared to the most liberal western democracies.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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The US is a flawed democracy[0]. You're acting like the US invented democracy and is a champion of freedom and acceptance which is confidently wrong. Try growing up as a gay kid in the bible belt. It won't be so different from doing so in Qatar. 0. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

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Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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"And in a country where e.g. homosexuality is illegal this kind of stuff presents additional dangers beyond compromising your privacy." What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? You are in danger in any country if you entry it with the intent of breaking the laws.

Seriously? You're just gonna act like it's okay for them to have laws against being gay ?

It's for Quatar to decide what their laws are. They aren't telling other countries what their laws should be.

Why this condescending tone and sense of moral superiority?

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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They ask but it’s not a requirement to fill it in.

The made it mandatory in 2020: https://estatousa.com/esta-social-media-question/

According to https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/faq?lang=en it's optional in the esta although they remind you that they can reject for any reason.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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I really would like to know how Qatar got the World Cup… it can’t have been legitimate, it’s just got so many obvious disadvantages… For example, it’s too hot to host it in summer as usual, so it’s in the northern hemisphere winter, which interrupts all the leagues.

Bribes, some of which came out and are currently under investigation/prosecution.

Other reasons why it's a terrible idea: they have a small population, little football culture (in terms of absolute size), no infrastructure (all the stadia are newly built and some will be demolished afterwards; there aren't enough hotels); they have many laws incompatible with what usually happens at World Cups. There literally isn't a single positive thing to be said about Qatar hosting the World Cup.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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The permissions mentioned sound like someone that doesn't understand the permissions systems used by Android and iPhone tried to translate them. So this part of the article is almost useless as it is hard to figure out what permissions the app actually has. I don't understand the Android permissions system well enough here, but I would be especially curious about which API version this is targeting as I don't know ho…

"And in a country where e.g. homosexuality is illegal this kind of stuff presents additional dangers beyond compromising your privacy." What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? You are in danger in any country if you entry it with the intent of breaking the laws.

Is this website even moderated anymore? Every time I visit Hacker News it gets even more extremist.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

#148

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"And in a country where e.g. homosexuality is illegal this kind of stuff presents additional dangers beyond compromising your privacy." What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? You are in danger in any country if you entry it with the intent of breaking the laws.

What are the dangers if you respect the laws of that country? In order to do that you'd need to know the laws of the country because ignorance of the law is not a defence. I imagine very few football fans are reading up on Quatar's legal system. So, really, trying to stay within the law is probably very hard, especially if you go there with a set of Western values. As a simple example, Qatar has law about "public mor…

"In order to do that you'd need to know the laws of the country because ignorance of the law is not a defence."

That is true for any country. You better inform yourself what the laws are and what their customs are in order to not break the laws or offense the locals.

Nobody forces you to travel to that country if their laws and customs conflict with your particular set of values.

Re: Everyone going to World Cup must have this app, experts are sounding the alarm

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- Sir, you have to install this application, it's available on both iOS and the Google Play Store. - Do you have a Debian package? - I beg your pardon? - My Pinephone runs a modified version of Debian, the Universal Operating System. - ... What is that? - Oh fine. I'll settle for a Flatpack then. - I'm not sure I follow. -Does Qatar's Law require me to have an Android phone xor an iPhone? - No ... ? - Well your Law s…

Last summer I had to travel to South Korea for business, I was required to install a government app due to covid. Obviously this app was only for android and iOS. I had an iphone so i didnt have issues. But if i had a pinephone, i probably would had to board the next plane out of the country.

Crazy how our lives are becoming so dependent on private company techs.

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