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Equifax used records it collects from companies to fire employees with 2nd jobs

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Post by thaumasiotes »

SllX wrote: post #75
thaumasiotes wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you can set your hours and working conditions and have your own equipment or tools it justifies not being an employee. There are of course important corner conditions like hiring a contractor who operates some machine you own. Note that security guards can be structured as contractors despite obviously not being able to choose where or when they work. There's a big list of things that "weigh in favor" of one sta…

The guards are still usually W-2 employees; but they’re employees of the firm that’s been contracted. Referring to them as “contractors” is more a colloquialism, but it marks someone that works for an outside firm versus someone that’s in-house and on the company team, even if they work in the same office day in and day out.

I was specifically referring to security guards structured as 1099 contractors. They do not have to be employees.

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Post by gnopgnip »

dieselgate wrote: post #42
justinc8687 wrote: post #31

"Equifax flagged 283 contractors for potential 'dual employment,' documents show." Would this not be a big flag to reclassify these contractors as employees? Being able to have multiple clients is one of the factors to determine if you're a contractor...

Good to know. I’m a contractor and am just starting my own business separate from my main contracting role. Was curious what precedent there is for this dynamic Edit: I was under the impression being a contractor would give one flexibility to do whatever they want when they’re not billing hours, depends on the contract wording of course

If you are in CA you have a "right to moonlight" provided there is no conflict of interest.

In probably 47 other states you could be fired for your activity outside of work even without a conflict of interest.

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Post by pooper »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #125
SilasX wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The parent wasn’t disagreeing with the collective payment responsibility (and I don’t know where you got that), only with the public school model that gives no choice as to which schools the money is spent at.

Suggesting a tax refund is pretty clearly proposing they should not have to fund public schools.

I fully support a public education but in the US, the school system is massively overloaded. We blame schools for everything and schools are all too eager to accept responsibility for anything and everything.

School athletics programs paying for huge multimillion dollar stadiums should not be possible. And on that topic, independent school districts should not exist. One state, one school district. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_Stadium_(Allen,_Texas)

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Post by asdff »

unendingtorment wrote: post #94
HWR_14 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Instead of paying $12,000/kid/year you could just send them to public school.

Or maybe get vouchers or tax refund for that dumpster fire.

If you give your kids a stable home they will do fine in public school

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Post by JetAlone »

darepublic wrote: post #43

Why separate church and state when they're so damn attractive to each other

Tell me about it, man. I think you'd have to scrape the bottom of the barrel to find a hypothetical proverbial state + church configuration worse than what we've got today. Let's say, North Korea + Westboro Baptist Church, would be worse.

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

HWR_14 wrote: post #86
anonreeeeplor wrote: post #81

I have three children. It is literally impossible for me to survive on any salary companies are willing to pay. I work multiple jobs. Idk the solution. It costs me $3,000 a month just for school. That’s a second mortgage. Either they increase pay 50%. Which they don’t want to do. Or I work three jobs. If they don’t like it, pay more. I actually don’t even have a choice, it isn’t even an option. School must get paid f…

Instead of paying $12,000/kid/year you could just send them to public school.

Having been through public school in the U.S., I would not send my own child to one if I had any other choice.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

akerl_ wrote: post #104
Dylan16807 wrote: post #59

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To what extent can you demand hours from a contractor?

If I contract you to do 10 hours of a task per week, and you say you did 10 hours but actually only did 5, you faked the hours and have violated our contract.

Right, but you can only put so much control in the contract before you're not contracting. And that's going to depend on jurisdiction too. So I was hoping for a contextual overview of that tradeoff.

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Post by Kiro »

robocat wrote: post #105
saxonww wrote: post #95

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As someone who went to public school and is doing just fine, I am wondering why that's not the solution.

Selection bias? The person who who went to public school and didn’t do fine is not so likely to be posting on HN?

I'm sure the vast majority on HN went to public school. In my country only the absolute elite such as monarchs go to private school.

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Post by harles »

teawrecks wrote: post #69
raydiatian wrote: post #16

> Executives, especially in the tech industry, have said they're worried that some remote employees are distracted. “Distracted” like the time that Equifax leaked hundreds of millions of pieces of personal data. Maybe instead of blaming the workforce they should worry about making the company a place that people want to work exclusively. Equifax does not matter at all as an organization.

Yeah I don't buy the complaints about remote workers being distracted. Isn't this the sole purpose of performance reviews? If the employee isn't doing their job, just fire them. Sounds to me like the execs just have control issues. "WE get to fly around in the private jets and strike business deals on the golf course, not you!"

I think it highlights another problem: performance reviews are heavily bias and management typically has no clue how their reports are actually performing.
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