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Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by z9znz »

snowwrestler wrote: post #106
z9znz wrote: post #14

Do other countries put US hardware and software companies on blacklists for their involvement with DoD? If so, then I think quite a few major US tech companies would be unable to do business outside the US and Europe.

I guess you have not been following the various EU rulings that say that EU citizen data must not flow to U.S. companies because it could be collected by U.S. intelligence services. “Google Analytics Ruled Illegal” would be a typical headline.

That is considerably different from blacklisting an entire company.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by magic_hamster »

inphovore wrote: post #93
magic_hamster wrote: post #3

They are absolutely right to do this, and private users should be wary as well. DJI's application (Mimo) has been banned from the Android Play Store for some time, with no explanation given by DJI. They offer an APK to side load, which is completely unsupervised, and requires access to your phone's accurate location and other invasive permissions no matter which of their products you are using. This is an important d…

> Aljazeera is comically ridiculous Aljazeera is a model of journalism excellence and integrity! Is this about their cookie warning? They’re obligated to say something. If you don’t take their journalism seriously, you deceive yourself!

> Aljazeera is a model of journalism excellence and integrity!!!

I might have been able to respond to this proclamation if I could find their damn website under all the popups and consent modals.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by sbf501 »

That's a damn shame because DJI drones are years ahead of every open source project I've used: iNav, Beta/Butter/CleanFlight, PX4*, Ardupilot... Nothing compares to the stability and ease of use of consumer DJI drones. I mean, eventually another company will get there, but not right now.

(*PX4 on Hawk and Cube FCs is the best experience I've had.)

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by brewdad »

jon-wood wrote: post #35
coldtea wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the whole idea, that is should be if not a modal, then like a modal, to get a response from the user before proceeding with the site. Nothing ridiculous about it (except the GDPR law itself). Many news websites do it even bigger, or hide the whole screen with a modal white overlay.

GDPR does not mandate huge banners for every use of cookies. Those banners are mandated because the website in question wants to share information gathered on you with, in the case of most news websites, hundreds of third parties in order to make a little bit more money from advertisers.

So pretty much the same as every other news site on the planet? I guess I'm not fully understanding why the OP is specifically calling out Al Jazeera here.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by theodric »

ethanbond wrote: post #128
collegeburner wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

^^^ this comment was posted by someone who does not know what an assault rifle is. it is very difficult and expensive to get ahold of a assault rifle these days and has been for almost 40 years. though yeah i think we should repeal that law, there is nothing wrong with civilians owning assault rifles. the federal government is literally not allowed to pass or enforce laws against this because it clearly infringes the…

Yes same for tactical nukes

Legalize recreational nukes

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Post by karambyt »

z9znz wrote: post #14

Do other countries put US hardware and software companies on blacklists for their involvement with DoD? If so, then I think quite a few major US tech companies would be unable to do business outside the US and Europe.

The US has ITAR. If you have certain government contracts you are prohibited from selling products or providing access to certain foreign nations (blacklists), or a complete export blanket ban.

For instance, I recently started investing in an excitingly expensive hobby, night vision. The tubes in those things are so heavily restricted that I cannot even let a foreign national touch them, technically. Which makes it interesting considering my girlfriend is a Tunisian foreign national here on a work visa, so technically I cannot show her my cool new toys I spent thousands of dollars on.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by karambyt »

ethanbond wrote: post #128
collegeburner wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

^^^ this comment was posted by someone who does not know what an assault rifle is. it is very difficult and expensive to get ahold of a assault rifle these days and has been for almost 40 years. though yeah i think we should repeal that law, there is nothing wrong with civilians owning assault rifles. the federal government is literally not allowed to pass or enforce laws against this because it clearly infringes the…

Yes same for tactical nukes

I hate this argument because it's fucking stupid. I think we can draw a clear and logical line between "gun" and "doomsday device".

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by karambyt »

adultSwim wrote: post #114

I'm uncomfortable with kneecapping every successful Chinese technology company. "US tech good, China tech bad" doesn't make sense to me.

Maybe China should stop kneecapping their own tech by injecting backdoors, layering hidden circuitry into motherboards, and harvesting US and EU user data for whateverthefuck their end goal is.

I mean, I get it, "poor put-upon China!", but let's be honest here: China needs to stop fucking around, lest they find out.

Re: Pentagon Puts DJI on Blacklist

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Post by i_am_jl »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #126
i_am_jl wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't been keeping up with the legislation updates, but the FAA's proposal for positional reporting required the drone to report the location of the drone and the pilot . It seems to still be their objective under "Why do we need RemoteID" https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/remote_id/drone_pilo... >Remote ID helps the FAA, law enforcement, and other federal agencies find the control station when a drone appe…

Some of DJIs drones are small enough that they wouldn't have to follow that rule (the pilot GPS requirement is only for drones that are required to be registered with the FAA, aka those heavier than 250g. DJI very intentionally has a line of drones that weigh something like 248g)

Yep, the Spark and the Mavic Mini series are all exempt from registration and RemoteID as they're 249g on the nose.

I'm just pointing out why the DJI app may need the capabilities that it does, but you're right, for many users who will never own a >250g DJI drone, that permission will never, ever be necessary.

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