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Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by throwaway09223 »

Euphorbium wrote: post #121
londons_explore wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised they advertise their own product in those places... It's such an obvious thing for the EU to go after. "Google has a monopoly position in Browsers/Search, and (ab)used their homepage to advertise their entry into a new field of business, immediately giving it free advertising the competitors could never access." If I were Googles legal team, I would immediately put an end to such cross-product advertisi…

Google does not have a monopoly in browsers or search.

The poster above you said "monopoly position," which is defined in the EU as more than 25% of the market. Google unquestionably has a monopoly position in both areas.

The US similarly defines monopoly as having significant control over a market, not as a literal 100% stake.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by karussell »

thih9 wrote: post #126
exabrial wrote: post #124

Who still using chrome? Use safari, brave, or Firefox.

> Who still using chrome? According to statcounter[1], Chrome had 65.52% of the browser market share in August 2022. [1]: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

I just wanted to nit-pick and state that this includes mobile (ie. Android) but on Desktop it is not better (67.33%) as Safari is not that strong there. And Firefox still loses on Desktop (0.5% compared to last year). Wow.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by infinityio »

Euphorbium wrote: post #121
londons_explore wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised they advertise their own product in those places... It's such an obvious thing for the EU to go after. "Google has a monopoly position in Browsers/Search, and (ab)used their homepage to advertise their entry into a new field of business, immediately giving it free advertising the competitors could never access." If I were Googles legal team, I would immediately put an end to such cross-product advertisi…

Google does not have a monopoly in browsers or search.

To my knowledge, Google has 90% of search engine traffic in some regions, and Chrome makes up the majority of Web browsers, even disregarding Chromium

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by Jensson »

kaushikc wrote: post #128
JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do we fix this loop in companies? It is a very serious problem for humanity’s future. It exists in government too. How do we reward long-term thinking and decisions?

Short term rewards would need to be less enticing than the long term ones. Doing so would involve restricting many rights and privileges and people would hate that.

That only works if leadership can spot the difference between long term and short term, and more importantly that they even cares about it.

"Reward long term" is easier to say than to do.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by ceejayoz »

andrewinardeer wrote: post #72
Jemm wrote: post #64

Proves the saying, "If you are not paying for the product, you are the product"

Not true for self hosted open source software.

Not necessarily. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/base-files/+bug/17...

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by cpsns »

yreg wrote: post #101
null_object wrote: post #82

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> Our family Mac we got in ~2011 did show Apple as the new tab page, or at least the start page when you opened Safari after booting Pretty certain this is also incorrect. My recollection seems to accord with the Wikipedia page on the history of the Safari browser which (although it doesn’t itemize the default StartPage for each version) doesn’t cite any inclusion of an AppStore link, as far as I can see. [O] https:/…

Not the "Apple Store", but apple.com I believe it is correct. It was back when we didn't call it a new tab page, but 'homepage' and it was set to an actual website. Of course Safari defaulted to apple.com, what else was it supposed to default to?

It is correct, back in the Panther days when Safari was new the default home page was Apple.com.

I’m not sure how long they did that for, but like you said, what else were they supposed to do? It was a different time, homepages were treated differently.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by can16358p »

sshine wrote: post #127
thih9 wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Who still using chrome? According to statcounter[1], Chrome had 65.52% of the browser market share in August 2022. [1]: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

On my computer, Chrome has a 0% market share!

Mine too. But it unfortunately doesn't change the fact that Chrome is the most popular browser.

Hope its domination, just like anything Google, ends soon though.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by wooque »

qzx_pierri wrote: post #140
exabrial wrote: post #124

Who still using chrome? Use safari, brave, or Firefox.

I'm so tired of seeing people recommend Brave. Firefox is what the web needs. Organizational shenanigans aside, Firefox is the best browser on the market right now.

Brave works, Firefox don't, simple as. I tried Firefox numerous times and I always stumble upon glitches, and it still measurable slower. Chromium won, deal with it.
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