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Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

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The DB5 in Goldfinger (1964) had revolving licence plates. A cursory Google search comes up with some shady websites that sell similar tech, but it would be a nice DIY project to make a licence plate screen that can be changed on the fly (e-ink based maybe). Has anyone tried it?

This would be flagged immediately. Law enforcement cameras check the plate against the registered make, model, and colour (which are public record in the UK)

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#142
This came up in a thread elsewhere about the severe increase in vehicle thefts in the Portland area. These thefts are not actively investigated by the police, so it would be nice if the owner of a vehicle could get relevant data for the movement/location of the stolen vehicle.

Anybody here ever worked with their local PD to get access to the ALPR data? Seems like the work to do it would be more political/bureaucratic than technical.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#143
post #2

The gist of it: I can subscribe to location updates for any license plate that I want, without knowledge or consent from the owner of that car.

did you know that the city of Menlo Park california requires companies to have cameras which can see for miles and track and report all vehicles that drive by them....

look up the largest company in menlo park...

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#144
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A bike is a great mode of transportation when you don't need to carry anything heavy, bulky, passengers etc. and when weather permits. My family uses our cargo bikes as our primary mode of transportation year round. It turns out that children were allowed to leave the house prior to the invention of cars and continue to be capable of wearing jackets in the winter. Many even like the snow. The key thing to understan…

I don't really disagree with your points, but your usecase is nowhere near the norm where I live or how I live. I'm perfectly fine with city dwellers having more bikes (if they so choose), whatever helps the traffic and parking in the cities. My point still stands that in no way is a bike a replacement for all the utilities of a vehicle, whether you're offloading that by renting, borrowing, etc. I'll drive my vehicle…

Yes, choice is good - my point was simply that the vast majority of American vehicle miles traveled are not doing things which can only be done by a large, expensive car or truck. I suspect in the future we’re going so see a lot more electric LSVs, too, since an awful lot of trips don’t need to go over 30mph and saving $20-30k plus maintenance is appealing to a lot of people.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#146

This came up in a thread elsewhere about the severe increase in vehicle thefts in the Portland area. These thefts are not actively investigated by the police, so it would be nice if the owner of a vehicle could get relevant data for the movement/location of the stolen vehicle. Anybody here ever worked with their local PD to get access to the ALPR data? Seems like the work to do it would be more political/bureaucratic…

We tried and failed, but it was not ALPR data.

I came to the conclusion that the data is only available to defend the well connected, or to persecute their enemies (at least in the US).

I think the creation of mass tracking databases should be illegal.

Barring that, every single person should have equal access to it. (Perhaps gated behind filing a police report and swearing it is correct under penalty of perjury.)

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yep! There are so many people thinking "I did nothing wrong, who cares if I get tracked".... publish it all, and then have all the neighbours have access to that, the wife can see when you left the bar, your boss can see when you left, etc... only then will people be aware that it's not ok to do that. There are also laws (not sure if accepted yet) that all cars should have remote shutdowns/blocks.. for "security reas…

"publish it all, and then have all the neighbours have access to that, the wife can see when you left the bar, your boss can see when you left, etc... only then will people be aware that it's not ok to do that." If really everyone would participate, I would give it a try. Would disrupt a lot, but might end up with a honest society. But in reality, if you have money, you can circumvent tracking, in varius ways. I beli…

> If really everyone would participate, I would give it a try. Would disrupt a lot, but might end up with a honest society.

Do you really want your health insurance company to know that you parked outside a doctor's office, who specializes in skin cancers? You just went for a check-up, but they might want to increase your payments or even cancel your coverage entirely.

Then good luck finding another insurance provider, since they all have that information now.

Or how about all future potential employers knowing that you once visited a union office?

There are so many cases, where people "who have nothing to hide" can't imagine where this could bite them in the future.

You (or your wife/daughter/girlfriend/secretary, etc.) visit a Planned Parenthood? Everyone - including your pastor - now has that info.

You go to a job interview at a competitor? Your boss now knows that.

We have no idea who or what groups who might want to snoop in where we park our cars.

The possibilities for abuse are endless. And as always, we have no way of predicting what use-cases unethical individuals will come up with as these things roll out.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#148
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bike is a great mode of transportation when you don't need to carry anything heavy, bulky, passengers etc. and when weather permits. It's not a replacement for a vehicle, nor will it ever be.

> A bike is a great mode of transportation when you don't need to carry anything heavy, bulky, passengers etc. and when weather permits. My family uses our cargo bikes as our primary mode of transportation year round. It turns out that children were allowed to leave the house prior to the invention of cars and continue to be capable of wearing jackets in the winter. Many even like the snow. The key thing to understan…

That $11k/year figure is based on 15000 miles/year usage which is close to the average annual mileage per driver in the US.

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#149
I'm surprised my idea from 10 yrs ago hasn't been monetized. It was an lcd cover that could be made in license plate size, with a remote controller which could dim/darken/blackout the cover. Or in Deluxe mode, activate lines randomly which would result in a different number. Then again... somebody is out front in this technology space. https://www.newsweek.com/what-are-digital-license-plates-how...

Re: Traffic cameras expose your location through parking apps

#150
post #146

This came up in a thread elsewhere about the severe increase in vehicle thefts in the Portland area. These thefts are not actively investigated by the police, so it would be nice if the owner of a vehicle could get relevant data for the movement/location of the stolen vehicle. Anybody here ever worked with their local PD to get access to the ALPR data? Seems like the work to do it would be more political/bureaucratic…

We tried and failed, but it was not ALPR data. I came to the conclusion that the data is only available to defend the well connected, or to persecute their enemies (at least in the US). I think the creation of mass tracking databases should be illegal. Barring that, every single person should have equal access to it. (Perhaps gated behind filing a police report and swearing it is correct under penalty of perjury.)

Yeah, the thought was that after filing a police report one could track just the related vehicle.

Agreed on the dismal assessments, but those DBs are going to be created and we might as well extract some value as citizens.

Would you mind summarizing your attempt and any lessons learned (other than the disappointment mentioned)?

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