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I was annoyed with sites asking for too many Facebook privileges and made this

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Re: I was annoyed with sites asking for too many Facebook privileges and made this

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Post by phillmv »

mattbot5000 wrote: post #97
bigiain wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I immediately changed my DOB on facebook" Hmmm, I wonder what Facebook does when someone changes something like their DOB? Or name/address/email/phone? Or any other marketing-useful data in your profile? If _I_ were part of the Facebook Evil-Data-Mining Division, I'd certainly be looking to see if I can discern patterns like "This phillmv guy's _real_ birthday is 12/03/1975, but when he changes it for sites he doesn…

Facebook also limits the number of times you can change your DOB, though I'm not sure what that limit is.

This is extremely hateful. Like with the Google Plus real name thing.

Re: I was annoyed with sites asking for too many Facebook privileges and made this

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Post by rhizome »

idoh wrote: post #54
bkaid wrote: post #43

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I've seen a study that shows this isn't true, especially when prompting for offline_acces. Wish I could find the link. Also, Facebook's app analytics shows you the break down of how often permissions are rejected and from what I've seen with high usage, the permissions prompted did matter. I would disagree that you should just ask for ones you might not need, especially since you can always prompt the user later for…

I'm looking at the Facebook Insights for the app right now. The bucket where we asked for the most permissions (excluding email) performed significantly better than the other options. I don't know why that is the case, but it is. As for asking for permissions later, since it doesn't seem to matter we ask for all the ones we need up front. We've found that gradually asking for permissions as needed annoys the user and…

it may be consumer psychology: more permissions means your app must have more functionality.

Re: I was annoyed with sites asking for too many Facebook privileges and made this

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Post by danssig »

innoncent1 wrote: post #104
blhack wrote: post #24

Facebook is actually a bit scary even with most of the things you're disabling here disabled. (My point is that this is cool, but it really isn't enough) For instance, I'm using facebook auth on http://lanmarks.com -- I wanted to be able to pull my users' facebook friends so that they could filter the data on my site to only their set of friends (this is one of the appealing parts of facebook auth, imho). I spent a b…

Advertisers pay platform owners to have sex with user data. That does not sound nice, but it's an analogy that most people can understand. The advertisers are the Johns (paying customers). The platform owners are the pimps. The users are the whores. Once you understand that, things become crystal clear. The more whores a platform owner has, the more they can charge the Johns to fuck the data. Pimps fight over whores…

But the F pimp has vastly more whores.

Re: I was annoyed with sites asking for too many Facebook privileges and made this

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Post by gfodor »

rhizome wrote: post #17
gfodor wrote: post #11

This is a cool idea, but of course the warning is that if you are turning off certain permissions, there is a good chance the app you are adding is going to break since it's coded expecting certain behaviors from the API based upon those permissions being granted (even if the data is not going to be used.)

In other words, it's a good test to see if an app is coded incompetently.

Incompetent is a pretty strong word. If you are asking for permissions X, Y, and Z, and the contract with Facebook's API is you either get all three or you get zero, I fail to see why a programmer should spend any non-trivial amount of time coding defensively if that contract were broken. (All other things being equal, there are bigger fish to fry.)
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