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Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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post #112

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How has Desantis restricted voting rights?

Refused to implement the felon voting rights that voters approved in any manner that might actually by equitable. Proposed an extremely gerrymandered district map that was thrown out by a court, but then worked with the state congress to drag his feet on a replacement to ensure it gets used anyway.

So that is your definition of "restricting" -- not expanding?

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Curious... Soviet union were completely right when criticizing US for lynching black people... But it is interesting how propaganda works... It's like nowadays when you point hypocrisy in the Internet, but people just yell "whataboutism" as a way to always ignore criticism and do not accept responsibility for double standards and hypocrisy in the propaganda that they spread. Of course, this happens only for criticism…

> Curious... Soviet union were completely right when criticizing US for lynching black people... ...except they weren't criticizing. Much like in this case, their intention was to divert the attention on their cruel and inhumane practices by picking any distraction they could find out, with the goal of perpetuating their abuse without being subjected to criticism. It's the same reason why nowadays you have Putin's re…

This wasn't the impression I got from op. It's perfectly valid to point out that the u.s. is also guilty of the things it imposes sanctions on other countries for - I don't believe that the argument is being made that Cuba is blameless, just that if you're going to hold someone to a standard of behavior, you should first hold yourself to that standard.

As a u.s. citizen, this resonates. I'm deeply troubled by the fact that we've been led by war criminals in my lifetime who got off scot-free.

Mind you, I'm not defending Cuba's human rights violations - I agree that things should be done to mitigate those. However, we should clean our own house first.

It's also been posted elsewhere in this thread, that sanctions haven't appeared to be effective. I think it's hard to argue otherwise, especially if you believe that the awful-dictator situation still persists, as we've had Cuba under sanctions for a while now.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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I think if you want to take part in discussions like this you should either inform yourself a bit beforehand, or enter them with an open mind. Otherwise you’re going to blunder in with clown shoes on and make yourself look like a conservative talk radio show caller

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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On the Cuba issue specifically the EU and Canada many years ago basically told the US to "f off." Way back in the 90s in the beginning of the Helms Burton act days. I know the US occasionally makes threatening but unenforceable noises, but I'm pretty sure the EU drew a firm line on US overreach on Cuba. The mechanisms behind the US trade blockade of Cuba are considered to breach the sovereignty of other nations. (As…

There's no "blockade" of US against the dictatorial communist regime of Cuba, just an embargo. which is totally different. Proof of that is the thousand of Canadians that go to Cuba to have cheap sex with poor people including minors, something they cannot do on their country. With a blockade you could not do that. Basically the Cuban government is a mafia, that never pays back what it owes to other countries on top…

The question isn't "does Cuba do shitty things?", though.

The question is a) "why is Cuba singled out over places like China that do similar (and often worse) shitty things?" b) "why are we ignoring decades of failure of the embargo to induce any meaningful change?"

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Refused to implement the felon voting rights that voters approved in any manner that might actually by equitable. Proposed an extremely gerrymandered district map that was thrown out by a court, but then worked with the state congress to drag his feet on a replacement to ensure it gets used anyway.

So that is your definition of "restricting" -- not expanding?

The voting rights of those individuals were restricted, as gp said.

You're rephrasing it to make it sound like its something materially different, yet it's the same thing that goes against the spirit - and likely the letter - of the law.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Automated enforcement is evil and must be banned (except in situations when the violations themselves mostly are automated and come in unbearably huge quantities).

> Automated enforcement is evil and must be banned Aren't the only people able to enforce the banning of automated enforcement, politicians, the very people that want the blocking done in the first place?

All you have to do is get them automatically screwed over by some unaccountable systems and we will quickly have laws that require automated systems be accountable.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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At the start of this year, I was in Cuba. While in Cuba, I opened my bank app to check my balance. Just that, not to make any transactions. I am a EU citizen. I only have EU bank accounts. The app I used was of a EU bank. There are no EU sanctions against Cuba at this time or at the time I was there. I also have no relation to the USA, I was never there or have business there. A few days after opening my bank app ( a…

This is precisely why I would rather have my data tracked by China rather than the US. Only one of those would get other countries to fuck me over for some arbitrary reason.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Oh, nice, my company is just integrating Okta. Is Cuba still being punished for daring to host Soviet missiles? I think the way we've treated them is really terrible.

Cuba exports terrorism and misery across the region. The dictatorships in Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua fly under the radar these days, but are no less noxious to humanity than the regimes in Russia, Iran, NK, etc. You can argue whether or not sanctions are an effective way to promote regime change, or if they just hurt the regular citizens of rogue governments. I think they are often quite ineffective. But there's…

Imagine discussing South America only to come to the conclusion that Cuba is to blame LMAO

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Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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Cuban life expectancy is almost exactly equal to American life expectancy; likely better over the last two years, actually ( https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/... ). They don't seem to be doing that badly at keeping folks alive.

The life expectancy for an American man is only 73 years old? That's distressingly low for such a rich country!

Most of that is self-inflicted though. Lifestyle-related.

It's not a bad thing either, you can live your life like a saint and still die young of cancer. I think we're focused on physical instead of mental health too much sometimes.

If people like to live a certain lifestyle and know the risks, just let them.

Re: Okta and Auth0 Blocking Cuba, Iran, N Korea, Syria, Crimea, Luhansk, Donetsk

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post #30

Note how Russia is not on the list.

I don't understand the reason for that. Somehow it is OK to do business with Cuba which are not threatening anyone but not with Russia that is killing people en masse?

If killing innocent people is where you draw the line then you should stop doing business with the U.S.

Inb4 cries of whatboutism, no I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.

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