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And are you not upset because of psychopathic tendencies? You certainly seem to be disdainful when someone expresses empathy. I’m upset about climate change because it personally affects me, but I’m also upset about armed agents of the state murdering Black citizens without repercussion. I’m white. Do you find my response to be “overly-emotional”?
Plastic might be making us obese
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#142Our food chain has a lot to do with obesity. There are many studies on this stuff. We eat 5 times as much meat on average as people did 100 years go. Animal based products are a major source of fat. People used to eat more fruits and vegetables. The fat type has shifted with more fat (which has higher calorie per gram amounts than carbs or protein) and fat moving from polyunsaturated fats to saturated fats (which cau…
The amount of vegetable based fats consumed 100 years ago was significantly less. It wasn't until chemical extraction was introduced that we could consume as much vegetable based fat as we do today.
Saturated fat is actually more stable and by far healthier.
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#143So something sold as "heart healthy" is loaded with obesogens and will contribute to obesity.
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I find this to be a pretty lame analysis. > People in the 1800s did have diets that were very different from ours. But by conventional wisdom, their diets were worse, not better. They ate more bread and almost four times more butter than we do today. They also consumed more cream, milk, and lard. This seems closely related to observations like the French Paradox — the French eat a lot of fatty cheese and butter, so w…
I think saying that physical activity accounts for the differences in weight isn't supported by the evidence. I mean, surely if eating pure honey for half your calories but exercising a bunch led to good health outcomes and lower weight, we'd see people losing weight by exercising without dieting. We don't see that. Similarly, look at their article on obesity in different professions - it does not align with who does…
I cannot find their article on professions. I’d be very skeptical. In general being poor in America means a terrible diet is likely so that’s a huge part of the equation. It seems very unlikely that exposure to endocrine disrupters varies enough to explain the differences. People in poverty will have a huge variance in exposure but the obesity rates are high across the board.
Especially if you see something like… idk, factory workers being called high exposure having high obesity but lower obesity than something like a dmv clerk that’s totally sedentary but at worst median level exposure.
Some groups will get HUGELY more exposure to some chemicals. I’m not convinced at all they represent the fattest groups. Which is a strong counterpoint if one is trying to claim this is the strongest effect.
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The bun probably causes inflammation/leaky gut for a lot more people than area aware it does. Modern wheat is a weird organism.
What’s weird about it? Is emmer or kamut much better? What about red fife, a strain of wheat from ~170 years ago?
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Yes, it's bad in the US, but obesity is rising worldwide. Obesity, in general, correlates with GDP per capital.
Then why are poorer people more obese? Edit: still talking about the USA here.
Btw, I'm not blaming the poor, being poor is hard. I grew up under the poverty line. Overcoming poverty is a huge task and more should be done.
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Would it change your perception if you look at overeating as a symptom rather than a cause? A common enough symptom for untreated diabetes is eccessive thirst. Why should some ailments not cause lack of satiety or edcessive hunger. Or even metabolic issues. Complex ones. Imagine that the basis for the obesity pandemic may in fact lie in other, lack of proper digestive bacteria and yeast for example. I feel that point…
Regardless of the causes of the caloric intake, managing said intake is still the responsibility of said individual. Unless the chemicals involved block the ability to take dietary decisions, of course, but that's a different discussion. From my point of view as an obese individual: It is the cheeseburgers. And the lack of excersize. And the long days working at a screen with few breaks. Change is hard and bad habits…
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#148Is it the plastic though, or is it the sugar? Over my last few years of reading, I've convinced myself that sugar is the main culprit in massive obesity in Western countries, especially the US (i.e. high fructose corn syrup). Sugar is in everything (like plastic, I suppose). Look at the ingredients of what you buy and you'll be surprised where it turns up. Peanut butter, mayonnaise, beef jerky, even bog standard brea…
There is Miracle Whip but that is a bit of a reach to call mayonnaise.
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Regardless of the causes of the caloric intake, managing said intake is still the responsibility of said individual. Unless the chemicals involved block the ability to take dietary decisions, of course, but that's a different discussion. From my point of view as an obese individual: It is the cheeseburgers. And the lack of excersize. And the long days working at a screen with few breaks. Change is hard and bad habits…
Can heroin addiction be treated with heroin intake management?
I didn't grow fat because I have a slow metabolism (and I do), or because I'm addicted to a specific unhealthy type of food; I'm fat because I made a major switch in lifestyles (hard labour to desk job) without any changes to my diet, and because I kept prioritizing other things than my health for decades. After a while it became obvious that change is needed, but boy is it difficult to lose weight once you've had it for 20 years!
The solution is managing my diet. Sure, some variables may change (such as chemicals affecting my body), but I still need to keep consuming less calories than I burn in order to do something about the issue.
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Regardless of the causes of the caloric intake, managing said intake is still the responsibility of said individual. Unless the chemicals involved block the ability to take dietary decisions, of course, but that's a different discussion. From my point of view as an obese individual: It is the cheeseburgers. And the lack of excersize. And the long days working at a screen with few breaks. Change is hard and bad habits…
> Change is hard and bad habits are not easy to get rid of Which is exactly why no expert in treating addiction suggests using willpower to "cold turkey" as a treatment.