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Re: Cloudflare Warp

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Side note: double clicking on the background of this page changes between dark/light mode.

I love little things like this. It's fun to do something either by accident or with whimsy, thinking about the ridiculousness, and then find out something actually happens!

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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post #43

I’ve been a Warp+ user for some time now and I’m mostly happy. My online privacy is important to me. I use ad blockers too in addition to cloudflare. A couple of things I’ve noticed along the way… 1. Switching off my wi-fi network and then rejoining later used to be an issue but seems to have resolved some time ago (mobile) 2. It seems on macOS that almost every time I login I need to update the client. 3. Usually si…

Biggest pain points with Warp for me are lately, due to all the abuse by scrapers and such, quite a few sites just throw a 403 when I try to connect to them through Warp including my bank-- consider yourself lucky that you haven't been affected yet. And, most of the time, if I try to use Google search, I just get, "Our systems have detected unusual traffic from your computer network. This page checks to see if it's r…

I've seen this too but not in a while. I'm hoping they can combine their bot detection token attestation feature with Warp to guarantee my real traffic is separated from bot traffic before it leaves their network.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#143
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> Your Internet service provider can see every site and app you use—even if they’re encrypted. Some providers even sell this data, or use it to target you with ads. > We believe privacy is a right. We won't sell your data, ever. "We, the people who make up this company now, but not in the future, PROMISE." I notice they didn't say "we don't keep the data." According to the comments, this is just wireguard. I deployed…

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Re: Cloudflare Warp

#144

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I don’t want infrastructure providers to play law enforcement. If they would have had received a court order and acted afterwards, I’d be okay with their decision. But kicking customers for marketing? Meh.

So, they did it due to commercial reasons, not legal reasons? I assume they judged the commercial repercussions and decided keeping the content was a negative. Why do you think they should host it anyway?

They didn't host the content, though. They were only providing DDoS protection

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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post #55

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I’m confused by the first claim. Is it really true? I thought TLS prevented anyone from inspecting my traffic. Am I completely off base?

Is “DOH”ttps needed to hide requests from ISP’s when using VPN? I’d imagine the DNS protocol also runs over VPN?

Well using DoH while using a VPN isn’t going hurt and VPN clients/OS’s have been known to leak DNS queries from time to time.

So think of it like other forms of protection where 2 is better than 1 just in case that one fails.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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They have terminated service for 8chan, The Daily Stormer, and KiwiFarms. I'll leave it up to you to determine how fair of a description "censored" is.

Even though those three website are filth, they have objectively been censored by Cloudflare. What's the confusion here? Just be honest about it and say Cloudflare censors content they don't agree with. Why the tiptoeing around this fact?

I think you are making statements that are stronger than reality.

Cloudflare censors content they don't agree with? I would guess they actually protect a huge volume of content they don't agree with.

And I don't think they have suppressed those sites or gone out of their way to take action against those sites beyond terminating Cloudflare protections. So, to me at least, that doesn't rise to the definition of "censorship".

Just because you state it is a fact doesn't actually make it factual.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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post #60

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Yup. A bit less catchy than “Don’t be evil” but it’s the same. Cloudflare is what Google was 20 years ago. The cycle can only break by decentralized protocols.

Which isn't ever going to happen as the benefits of centralization are too great, as it has been empirically observed time and time again.

A decentralized economy has shown superior to a centralized economy over time.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

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post #9

‘eastdakota: How would you candidly compare guarantees/expectations of Mullvad VPN vs your Cloudflare Warp VPN with respect to: - privacy, but also - performance. As a side note, I really value using a certain popular torrent box VM service for $10/mo is that they provide SSH and OpenVPN. I’ve used that VPN a lot when I worked in GCC countries (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain) to help me get around national HTTP blocklist…

Warp makes no substantive privacy claims.

Re: Cloudflare Warp

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, they did it due to commercial reasons, not legal reasons? I assume they judged the commercial repercussions and decided keeping the content was a negative. Why do you think they should host it anyway?

They didn't host the content, though. They were only providing DDoS protection

Tomato, tomato. And in this case, Cloudflare does proxy and cache traffic through its infrastructure, that's their whole business model.
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