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Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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I can't remember what book it was that was I reading, working through some language/framework of the month. They had you register an account on GitHub, and then on Heroku. You'd push the chapter's exercise up there, deploy it, and then never look at it again.

I always wondered how many millions of repos/apps were out there because of stuff like that.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#142

So their next chapter is obscurity followed by shutting down? It was clear even before their horribly bungled GitHub security incident that Heroku was on life support at best and it's been a long time since "Heroku" was the answer to "What PaaS should I use?". The beancounters took control a while back and are sucking all they can out of it before they discard it's empty shell. Having Heroku as your PaaS provider see…

What is the PaaS people use today? Just big cloud is too powerful or are there still niche companies that make life easy for startups like Heroku used to?

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please let me know in the replies what you'd like to see at Fly that would make it as good, if not better, than Heroku. I recently started working at Fly to focus on making Rails & Ruby app deployments awesome, and of course Heroku set that benchmark almost a decade ago. I can't promise I'll get to everything, but I can promise that it will help me better prioritize what I should be focusing on to make Fly better for…

On the top of my list is being able to use a local repository and providing no credit card.

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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#145

I can't remember what book it was that was I reading, working through some language/framework of the month. They had you register an account on GitHub, and then on Heroku. You'd push the chapter's exercise up there, deploy it, and then never look at it again. I always wondered how many millions of repos/apps were out there because of stuff like that.

Guilty, when I was learning django I probably orphaned like 20 or 30 myself.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#146
They mention abuse as one of the reasons to kill all 3 free products. Wouldn't just turning off free dynos, and making $7 as the new $0, have solved that? Why kill all three and take the minimum to $31 and make sure next generation will see you as rackspace? It appears the decision is taken by people who don't really understand the product beyond what they see in Excel.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be a poor business decision to exclude boot camp students from the upcoming student plan(s). That obviously doesn’t cover all types of learning/getting started though. I too mourn the loss of free, but also think it is the right decision for the times.

> If you want a Heroku trial, please contact your account executive or reach us here. Maybe I'm over skeptical here, but I don't see this being an easy thing for a bootcamp study to acquire or deal with.

Why even bother with contacting an account executive? It's $7 per dyno per month for the cheapest hobby tier. That's peanuts compared to any fees for a paid bootcamp. Heck, with inflation, that barely buys a bag of peanuts.

Plus the students would have an incentive to learn about shutting down unused resources that would pay dividends if they ever deploy to AWS. It'd be like a home economic lesson for hosted services.

$7/mo and access to a payment method might be a stopper for someone in the third world. But it's a private company, not a charity. Somebody else can solve that problem for the truly deserving.

I think it's incredible they've provided free services for over a decade and would love to know what percent of their free compute resource have simply be hijacked by crypto miners, torrent downloaders, and VPNs. It's got to be enormous and the simple requirement of a payment card would add enough KYC to eliminate all of them.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#148

Getting rid of free tier is super short sighted. I always start a project on a free / hobby tier. I’ll have a few going and they’ll be using basically zero resources because they have no visitors except testers and alpha / beta users. When a project is ready - click - I switch to paid and start paying. Probably also add the cloudfront add-on. Maybe a faster database etc If I have to go build the beta version somewher…

Yep, this reads like they want Heroku to quietly die off but don't want to make a hard deprecation announcement.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#149

This is a sad day. Pricing changes are always hard, and having been through some of the earlier pricing changes at Heroku you can't make everyone happy. But, so many developers deployed their first app on Heroku and was a staple for so many bootcamps. Without it I'm confident we'd have less developers in the world. It is still one of the gold standards for developer experience. Years after its heyday companies and to…

I agree that the Heroku developer experience has been second to none. I'm a front-end & DX engineer at Northflank and we're working hard to evolve and create a next-gen iteration of the Heroku experience anchored around 12 Factor Applications in a Kubernetes/cloud native era. We're getting very close, come and see for yourself: https://northflank.com. Some key features:

* As simple as `git push` to build & deploy services

* One-click addons for Postgres, Mongo, Redis, MySQL and more

* A generous free tier to get developers on board with minimal friction

* Great out of the box observability

* The option to set up pipelines for more complex build/preview/release workflows

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