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A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by giantg2 »

mirekrusin wrote: post #56
isodev wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the flick of a switch, they can deploy this technology to a global scale and way beyond protecting children. Imagine the feature propagating to their Chrome browser or their smart speakers "listening in" on what's happening in your home to "prevent" crimes by sending the cops whenever you raise your voice or say "the wrong things." This kind of power should not be in the hands of a single company. Edit: I recent…

Who needs cops if you have an army of robots.

And who needs prisons if the private infrastructure becomes so integral to life that they can just shut you out of participating in society.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by tromp »

prox wrote: post #97
deepdriver wrote: post #51

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"The word fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signals 'something not desirable.'" --George Orwell

Yeah also think the word/concept fascism doesn’t fit here. While it is obviously oppressive or unjust, it is a company, so what would be a better fit?

unaccountable

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by bmacho »

seszett wrote: post #120
Enginerrrd wrote: post #86

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Wow, I'd guess the opposite when we consider the base rate. Seems like a classic Bayesian problem. It's fairly normal for parents to take pictures of their children naked in the bathtub/at the beach/ camping/etc. Conversely, I'd expect actual pedophiles and CSAM producers to be really quite rare. So even a relatively low base-rate of normal parents with normal nude photos would likely dwarf CSAM upon detection. So, i…

> It's fairly normal for parents to take pictures of their children naked in the bathtub/at the beach/ camping/etc. And what I understand is that each of these private photos of their children that parents take on an Android phone with Google cloud enabled gets specifically flagged to be shown to a stranger working for Google. That sounds pretty insane to me.

I don't think it is even legal for google to watch my photos, even if i accepted everything they said, and permitted them to do so.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by wormer »

blueflow wrote: post #92
leereeves wrote: post #76

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How would you (for example) apply for a job without the Internet?

Postal? Or deliver the envelope in-person to their box when they are nearby. I learned it like this, its since recently that applying by email more commonly an option.

As someone who's in college and looking/lookedfor internships to do over the summer, postal is literally not an option anymore. Companies will not offer a mailing address to their hiring team at all, and if you send something via mail they will simply not look at it. Also, post-pandemic, most interviews are done via Zoom, so how are you going to do that then? Even if you're in the same area as the company you're applying in, they just will not let you into the building.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by mhb »

prox wrote: post #97
deepdriver wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The word fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signals 'something not desirable.'" --George Orwell

Yeah also think the word/concept fascism doesn’t fit here. While it is obviously oppressive or unjust, it is a company, so what would be a better fit?

Libelous

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by SergeAx »

ugjka wrote: post #71

> Not only did he lose emails, contact information for friends and former colleagues, and documentation of his son’s first years of life, his Google Fi account shut down, meaning he had to get a new phone number with another carrier. Without access to his old phone number and email address, he couldn’t get the security codes he needed to sign in to other internet accounts, locking him out of much of his digital life.…

Moved where? Not to iCloud, I hope?

Self-hosting mail, calendar and media is too complex task for 99% of population. This is not a solution.

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by 7373737373 »

Havoc wrote: post #123

It's completely ridiculous that Google's customer support process is basically: 1) AI bot 2) Beg HN/twitter for insider help 3) Lawyers That's absolutely insane for a product set that has become central to one's life

HN should add a [Corp Support] tab, if Google & Co won't create their own support system, let's do it here, and add a dark pattern leaderboard for not replying/acting

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by dannyr »

samat wrote: post #26

Is this the case with Apple iCloud Photo Library, too?

In the article:

"Apple announced plans last year to scan the iCloud for known sexually abusive depictions of children, but the rollout was delayed indefinitely after resistance from privacy groups."

Re: A dad took photos of his toddler for a doctor – Google flagged him as a criminal

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Post by giantg2 »

prox wrote: post #97
deepdriver wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The word fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signals 'something not desirable.'" --George Orwell

Yeah also think the word/concept fascism doesn’t fit here. While it is obviously oppressive or unjust, it is a company, so what would be a better fit?

If the government allows them to become a virtual monopoly/ doupoly, then it's possible one could see the abuses as indirectly government sanctioned. At least in so far that the company has integrated automatically with the law enforcement flow and that integration has flaws that will lead to the same sort of undesirable ham-fisted authoritarian enforcement. It also allows the government bypass search restrictions by simply buying your data.

So perhaps fascism doesn't fit perfectly, but it's pretty damn close in my opinion (especially if you use definition 3 by Wordnik "Oppressive, dictatorial control").

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