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Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by mauvehaus »

gumby wrote: post #127
dragonwriter wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt it. A dog and a sign send different messages, and the message of the sign is “the resident is afraid of being robbed”. EDIT: I want to make explicit that I am comparing something that gives the impression of a dog without a sign vs a sign with no other evidence of a dog. I am explicitly not commenting on the message sent by a sign combined with other evidence of a dog, just “fake (but, for the sake of argumen…

Interesting. I put up such a sign to try to reduce my liability if someone tried to get into my yard and encountered my 150 lb dog.

My former neighbor's father owned a junkyard with a fairly mean junkyard dog. Said dog did its job with a would-be thief, and the local government made them exterminate the dog.

Apparently the logic behind that decision included the argument that the fact that they posted a "beware of dog" sign indicated that they knew the dog was dangerous (duh, that's sort of the point) and therefore shouldn't be given further chances.

Yes, I realize that this wholly ignores the fact that the would-be thief was trespassing and that the meanness of junkyard dogs is so well-known as to be mentioned in a popular song. And that, again, the risk of getting bitten by the guard dog is precisely the deterrent factor in the system.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by marcodiego »

nyingpo wrote: post #103

It reminds me of a story that made the news[0] some years ago. The local police received complaints that a dog was being mistreated, chained on the same spot for days. Arriving at the scene they found out that an elderly couple were using a Rottweiler statue for keeping burglars away from their house. OP's fake dog is a great improvement over that one! [0] https://g1.globo.com/mg/sul-de-minas/noticia/2019/05/09/pm-e.…

A dog was mistaken for a lion: https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/01/labradoodle-m...

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by copperx »

bjt1234 wrote: post #135
Nextgrid wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A "beware of the dog" sign would probably be just as (if not more) effective regardless of whether there's an actual dog.

Dont over estimate how dumb they are. Installed security cameras, they still came onto the property. So, next I installed a sign "BEWARE OF THE SECURITY CAMERA", and didn't work, infact one guy broke into my car and simply just covered his face from the canera. So then I installed a cheap security light next to the sign that would light up when they entered. That worked.

> Dont over estimate how dumb they are.

Somehow, I can't parse this.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by copperx »

garborg wrote: post #131
hgazx wrote: post #93

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What kind of area has a significant amount of kids walking into peoples garages and stealing stuff?!

I grew up in sheltered outer suburbs where it's hard for kids to get around on their own, and older kids turn to some nonproductive amusements -- was surprised to hear a friend tell me he liked (after dusk) freeing trailers to watch them roll into cars.

That sounds like a low risk, high reward amusement. Before cameras were everywhere, of course.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by copperx »

blowski wrote: post #61
omginternets wrote: post #37

I saw a rather comical sign posted in the first-floor window of a Philadelphia apartment. It had a silhouette of a German shepherd and text beneath, which read: >I can get from the second-story floor to the front door in 1.2 seconds. Can you?

My labrador would run to the front door in 1.2s, but then roll over and demand to be stroked.

Is the 1.2s timing standardized among breeds? Or is it a General Dynamics dog?

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by Spivak »

mauvehaus wrote: post #141
gumby wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. I put up such a sign to try to reduce my liability if someone tried to get into my yard and encountered my 150 lb dog.

My former neighbor's father owned a junkyard with a fairly mean junkyard dog. Said dog did its job with a would-be thief, and the local government made them exterminate the dog. Apparently the logic behind that decision included the argument that the fact that they posted a "beware of dog" sign indicated that they knew the dog was dangerous (duh, that's sort of the point) and therefore shouldn't be given further chan…

Yeah but if you up the stakes from injury to death by replacing replacing “junkyard dog” with “automatic killbots” I feel more sympathetic to the thief. The punishment for breaking and entering is stuff like fines, jail, and community service not injury or death.

Despite the fact that if you were there you might have the right to stand your ground I don’t think that extends to autonomous systems, even biological ones, acting on your behalf.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by jabroni_salad »

cbozeman wrote: post #108

Don't get a fake dog for home security. Get a real gun. Then go to a tactical trainer who has served in the military ideally in a small arms instructor capacity - they're all over the nation - and inquire about home defense courses. And don't get a "handgun", get an AR-15 "pistol". That is, an AR-15 platform, a stabilizing brace, and a shortened barrel. If you're unsure what all this means, don't worry, your local fi…

Hello, can you please advise how I can use the gun to protect my home when I am "out of town on vacation" as quoted from the article. I will actually be taking a trip in august so this dicussion is quite timely. thanks.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by medstrom »

cbozeman wrote: post #94
jimt1234 wrote: post #82

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My sister, who has 3 big dogs, always says: "They (the bad guys) might get into my house. But they're not leaving."

I feel this way too. If you're breaking into someone's home, you're asking to die.

In the USA, perhaps. Most of the world isn't that lethal.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by Spivak »

copperx wrote: post #143
bjt1234 wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dont over estimate how dumb they are. Installed security cameras, they still came onto the property. So, next I installed a sign "BEWARE OF THE SECURITY CAMERA", and didn't work, infact one guy broke into my car and simply just covered his face from the canera. So then I installed a cheap security light next to the sign that would light up when they entered. That worked.

> Dont over estimate how dumb they are. Somehow, I can't parse this.

Imagine dumb is on a scale [0, 10] where 0 is “not dumb” and 10 is “dumbest a person could possibly be.”

Now on this scale estimate how dumb someone is. If you say 2 (a little dumb) but in actuality they’re a 7 (very dumb) you underestimated how dumb they are.

Re: Fake Dog for Home Security

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Post by wollsmoth »

goodpoint wrote: post #117
wollsmoth wrote: post #52

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Different people respond to different things. But I do think the US system is a bit too punitive. A lot of states have stuff like free community college for those who want it. But guess what? they still have a lot of car radios and catalytic converters being stolen.

A bit? It has a higher incarceration rate than North Korea.

Sure, but they also have a pretty repressive regime where you might get executed for watching the wrong tv show.

I think it's better to compare to other developed countries.

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