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I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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Impressive. At this price point they had to cut some features. I wonder if one of those features is "Safety" and another one is "The front won't fall off".

Safety at a blistering speed of checks article 25 mph? Who in their right mind would design for safety if the thing can't even outpace a professional cyclist?

25mph is plenty fast for a car accident.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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It's just not true - the author of this article doesn't understand FMVSS or the process. How this works is basically: 1) There are safety guidelines (FMVSS) governing classes of motor vehicles. For LSVs, the regulations are _extremely_ simple. There's no such thing as a "DOT reverse camera factory." https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/571.500 2) The manufacturer must self-attest that the vehicle complies, and aff…

Millions of things are stamped "not for highway use" not because they don't comply with the relevant FMVSS but because the manufacturer doesn't know, doesn't care and doesn't want to think about it or risk being wrong.

  > Millions of things are stamped "not for highway use" not because
And those things cannot be registered to be driven on public roadways. That's going back to the beginning of the discussion - this truck cannot be registered to be driven on public roadways.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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>there's zero market for something like it (Smart sadly fizzled out), mainly because of the onerous manufacturing and certification requirements mentioned in the article. Well, and most people don't want a specialized vehicle they can only use on certain roads for certain purposes but which take a spot on their property, need to be maintained at some level, etc. Maybe have some costs for registration, licensing, etc.…

> specialized vehicle they can only use on certain roads for certain purposes You just described a bicycle, which are pretty popular last I checked

There's a huge difference between storing a bicycle and storing what's basically another car.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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I wonder if there's a solution similar to experimental aeroplanes, e.g. a massive sticker which essentially says "THIS IS NOT A CERTIFIED PLANE, IT COULD BE DANGEROUS"

Those planes are allowed to be flown for specific testing purposes only. You cannot fly passengers nor even cargo with them. And each flight crew member must have a very specific, essential role. You can't fly e.g. a tourist and call him "mission specialist" to get around the rules.

I'm thinking of kit/owner-built aeroplanes. They can fly like regular (type-certified) aeroplanes, but have to be placarded (e.g. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/passgrwarn.ph...) https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/airworthiness_certific...

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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Honestly, I think $7,000 delivered for this is a pretty good price. It would make a nice farm vehicle, especially with that dump bed. It's in the same price range as a lower end UTV and looks like it would be far more comfortable doing, e.g., snow clearing duty. Swap in a set of BFG Mud Terrain tires and you're all set. Some feedback on reliability, the rust issues, etc. would be nice but I'd seriously think about ge…

https://insideevs.com/news/502536/wuling-hongguang-mini-ev-c... That's the actual car I think I want most in the world. It's so cheap and fun, and possibly even practical for me, but I don't think there's any way I could drive it in my city sadly.

I don't think it will ever arrive in the US, but the Citroen AMI is a nice little thing that is having some success in some EU countries:

https://www.citroen.co.uk/models/future-models/ami.html

Though personally (if it will ever be produced in mass) I like this "re-make" of the old Isetta, the microlino:

https://microlino-car.com/en/microlino

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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> specialized vehicle they can only use on certain roads for certain purposes You just described a bicycle, which are pretty popular last I checked

There's a huge difference between storing a bicycle and storing what's basically another car.

On the other hand, a golf-cart sized vehicles can fit into tiny garages with room to spare, and could eliminate need for several bicycles.

I bet you could fit 2 small NEV into same space needed for 1 minivan or full size pickup/SUV.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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In this case I think the positive reactions a year later are more a result of having a good use case for the NEV/LSV rather than the truck being a good buy for the general public. There's also arguably limited use cases like the article brings up (off road, not street legal, lots of land) - or at least "limited" in comparison with the average / mean vehicle that gets purchased by consumers. Great that it has a use ca…

How many of the trucks you see in the US are actually needed , though? Most of them are only used for commuting, and twice the size of a truck used for actual work.

They're not used for commuting, a simple hatchback would do that trick; they're used for status/signaling!

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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It’s really not that small in real life.

I'm in the UK and seen them about. They aren't very large, about the size of a Fiat 500 which is considered quite a compact car. [Edit] I've just looked it up and it is considered a mid-sized super-compact. Within 1/2" of the Fiesta for the wheelbase. Its quite dinky.

Its wheelbase is 8 inches longer than the Fiat 500, and it’s overall 10" longer. It’s by no means a big car, but it’s quite a bit bigger than a traditional city car.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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A $7,000 wheelbarrow

In the video, he makes the point that the other thing he considered getting for his parents was a golf buggy. This came in cheaper and more useful.

I was not aware that golf buggies are so expensive, wow. I mean, doesn't surprise me that much considering that everything related to golfing seems insanely expensive, but I didn't expect golf buggies to cost more than a used car, new motorbike or other things.

Re: I bought a cheap electric pickup truck from Alibaba (2021)

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In the US you'd have to buy a bunch and put them through destructive crash tests to certify them, and I doubt these would pass - those smart cars actually have expensive high end steel structures built in that make them surprisingly resilient, and I doubt they do that in China. If they had 3 wheels you could skip a lot of that and count it as a motorcycle. Also, anything older than 25 years basically just bypasses th…

The “destructive crash tests” are required so that you have a fighting chance in surviving a crash with a SUV

Looking at the way the "frame" is built on these, I'm not sure it would fare well in a crash with even a Fiat 500. It appears to have zero crash safety.
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