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The SQLite Code of Ethics

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Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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> The founder of SQLite and all current developers have pledged to follow the spirit of The Rule to the best of their ability. Sure, as far as I'm aware code of conducts/ethics only ever apply to contributors, no-one has beliefs being forced upon them. But that seems to be about the highest bar of entry for an interested developer I have seen in any project. Not waving pitchforks here, I'm fine with them having this…

SQLite generally doesn't accept contributions. "Open-Source, not Open-Contribution" https://www.sqlite.org/copyright.html

I don't understand why he didn't just use MIT or CC0 as license.

It gives the same rights and the same limitless nature, so why use an arbitrary license which might cause problems in some countries ? And also makes the contribution workflow more complex?

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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What would you consider the best response to the desire for clear boundaries and expectations from project communities?

The best response? “No”. The code of conduct push was a transparent game of social aggression — an attempt to shift open source power dynamics in favor of: (1) Allowing social activists, who could not acquire institutional power on the basis of their own technical merit, to co-opt open source institutions for their own aims and to extract resources. See also the contributor covenant, DEI consultants, et al. (2) Secur…

So a few bad apples has ruined the whole idea in your mind?

Are you also satisfied with the diversity within the project communities that you contribute to?

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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There are some questionable ones in between there. > Obey in all things the commands of those whom God has placed in authority over you even though they (which God forbid) should act otherwise, mindful of the Lord's precept, "Do what they say, but not what they do." This would have you willingly submit to sexual assault by a priest. And really should be revised considering the slew of cases against the church, or at…

I'm somewhat worried that there's a lot of 'love thy neighbour as thyself' combined with a lot of self-hatred/denial.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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People here try to subvert expectations with their takes so much that it's no surprise that there are so many posts saying there is nothing wrong with this and to not use it if you don't agree. If the post wasn't specifically drawing attention to the unusual code of ethics, people would be dragging it through the mud for the potential to generate bad PR or some other example illustrating why 'successful companies keep their codes plain and boring for a reason'.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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> a set of beliefs The elephant in the room in many current attempts to encourage "diversity" is that a genuinely diverse range of opinions and/or beliefs ends up being not welcome at all.

Paradox of Tolerance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance > The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Karl Popper described it as the seemingly self-contradictory idea that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must retain the right to be intolerant of intolerance.

Sounds like a license to be intolerant, if only you can convince people that your opponents were intolerant first.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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I've used SQLite in the long past (early 2000s) and had fun with it, but I had never seen this. Imposing your religious beliefs through a ..code of "ethics" no less, in exchange for some (arguably small) thing you've done that is completely irrelevant to these beliefs is ludicrous. While I secretly hope that the author is light-spirited in writing this, I will err on the safe side and never use, and actively steer folks away from using, SQLite in the future.

Incidentally, the page has some internal consistency issues:

``` Honor all people. ```

has historically not played well with:

``` First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength. Deny oneself in order to follow Christ. Prefer nothing more than the love of Christ. Put your hope in God. Attribute to God, and not to self, whatever good you see in yourself. Fear the Day of Judgment. Be in dread of hell. Desire eternal life with all the passion of the spirit. Keep death daily before your eyes. Know for certain that God sees you everywhere. When wrongful thoughts come into your heart, dash them against Christ immediately. Listen willingly to holy reading. Devote yourself frequently to prayer. Daily in your prayers, with tears and sighs, confess your past sins to God, and amend them for the future. Obey in all things the commands of those whom God has placed in authority over you even though they (which God forbid) should act otherwise, mindful of the Lord's precept, "Do what they say, but not what they do." Do not wish to be called holy before one is holy; but first to be holy, that you may be truly so called. Fulfill God's commandments daily in your deeds. Pray for your enemies in the love of Christ. Never despair of God's mercy. ```

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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> a set of beliefs The elephant in the room in many current attempts to encourage "diversity" is that a genuinely diverse range of opinions and/or beliefs ends up being not welcome at all.

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> If you have a truly diverse group of people, they will not suffer fascists in their group

Not sure why one has to jump straight to fascists.

Shouldn't a truly diverse group of people always include people with views that you disagree with?

Otherwise we're defining a diverse group as 'looking diverse ' yet all thinking the same.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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I can't help but notice the contrast with the popular, Contributor Covenant Code of Conduct, which makes it abundantly clear its aim to enforce a set of beliefs on its contributors, with no boundaries between professional and personal life.

The Contributor Covenant is the gold standard for a reason: it is a response to the bigotry and harassment problems that were endemic to the open source communities. Alone it doesn't achieve much, but combined with a good faith enforcement board it helps keep a community a pleasant, joyful place to contribute to, for everyone. And that will increase software quality and attract quality people, aside from being, you k…

With good modding, no code is needed. And with bad modding, the best code imaginable can achieve nothing. It is all down to the quality of the modding.

Re: The SQLite Code of Ethics

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> a set of beliefs The elephant in the room in many current attempts to encourage "diversity" is that a genuinely diverse range of opinions and/or beliefs ends up being not welcome at all.

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Well, you wasted no time whatsoever in playing the Nazi card.

If you're willing to hear a counterpoint: I disagree wholeheartedly with your worldview, and yet I support your right to express your views. See, I'm not looking to "silence", "suppress", or "destroy" you, even though I disagree with you. Please make a mental note that people like me exist and not everybody who disagrees with you is a fascist.

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