Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jun 25, 2022, 3:18 AM UTC

mch82 wrote: post #120

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> Note that most contraceptives prevent implantation and IVF creates more embryos than needed. Both are no-no’s under the new regime. Do you have any examples of specific laws of in any states that would make contraception or IVF illegal? Most pro-life people are very supportive of IVF as they are all about people having more babies. Many states with anti-abortion laws also have laws explicitly making surrogacy legal…

> Do you have any examples These rights and others are directly questioned in the text of the SCOTUS concurrence today: "For that reason, in future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell.” Neal Katyal: “That's right to privacy, contraception, marriage equality,etc” https://twitter.com/neal_katyal/status/1540341236803977216

Post by KMag » Sat, Jun 25, 2022, 3:19 AM UTC

wonnage wrote: post #110

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> I assumed it was a decision relating to a woman's reproductive rights. But, you realize it's largely a question of axioms, right? Two sides are talking past each other because they take their axioms for granted as self-evident. It's simply a question of a woman's reproductive rights if you take it as axiomatic that a fetus isn't a person. I don't take it as axiomatic that personhood begins at conception, but if I d…

It's not "largely a question of axioms" and no amount of confidently assert-while-questioning will make it so

Post by jimkleiber » Sat, Jun 25, 2022, 3:20 AM UTC

unmole wrote: post #103

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This is completely made up. Corporations take political positions all the time; it's why they hire lobbyists. Taking political positions is part of business. Your statement really could not be further from the truth.

Again, corporations act in their rational self interest. Sure, industry specific regulation and abortion access are both political . But conflating them is not particularly useful.

Post by gadflyinyoureye » Sat, Jun 25, 2022, 3:21 AM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #88

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It's not about making it illegal, it's that IVF typically results in more fertilized embryos than are kept. So like you said, the pro-life folks would force every single one to be kept.

Do you have an example of any pro-life lawmaker, pundit, anyone demanding that all embryos from IVF be kept?

Post by hedora » Sat, Jun 25, 2022, 3:21 AM UTC

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The point isn't to change neo-nazis minds. The point is to tip state demographics so that the Republican party never holds 40 senate seats or the presidency again.

The fact that you are straight calling people neo-nazis, and say that "so that Republican party never holds presidency again" proves my point. There are people on the other side of the fence that wants the opposite what you want.