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Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by causality0 »

toofy wrote: post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

Creeping around and posting paranoid messages is silly but I wouldn't blame anyone for ignoring an unexpected knock. The ratio between people I want to engage with and people I don't is just too low. For every teenage girl needing help there are a hundred proselytizers, salespeople, and scam artists.

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Post by maxehmookau »

langsoul-com wrote: post #136
maxehmookau wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. Local facebook and whatsapp groups are the worst for this sort of thing. I solved it by becoming the benevolent dictator of a handful of my local online groups and swiftly delete messages like this. It's not perfect, but it'll do.

Insanely high costs to you though, constant moderation just to keep things sane.

Oh sure, it's not scalable. But I'm not trying to solve content moderation at scale. Just shut down a few people that shit-stir in my own community.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

anon2020dot00 wrote: post #135
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just people, a lot of the fault is on mods. Talk about Epsteins "suicide" on /r/conspiracy, and get autobanned from a bunch of subreddits, you've never even heard of before.

Interesting so how deep does the conspiracy go? Is a big portion of Reddit mods trying to cover-up "Epstein" crimes?

Nah, they decided some subreddits are "bad for advertisers" during the covid time, and /r/conspiracy got put on a long list of "undesirables". The precedent for the was /r/the_donald before that).

Some more radical pro-censorship subreddits decided to just ban anyone posting on any of those subreddits, and the sentiment spread to larger subreddits, like eg. /r/pics).

Combine conspiracies and covid, and "spreading covid fake news" was the official reason to ban people just by posting to any of such subreddits.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by notagoodidea »

kube-system wrote: post #107
ultrarunner wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My only interaction with Nextdoor these days is @bestofnextdoor on twitter. I highly recommend this arrangement. https://twitter.com/bestofnextdoor

Those are mild. In my nextdoor feed, there’s an elderly woman who angrily replies to every post telling them to stop emailing her. She apparently doesn’t know how to turn off notifications. People have tried to help but I guess she doesn’t read the replies either.

Never used this app but I suppose it is a neighborhood-thing? Nobody can simply swing by her home and explain it to her? And if she does not open her door, it is what is.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by TomSwirly »

Nextgrid wrote: post #12

Patron has a similar issue. Subscribing to a creator by default opts you into all types of notifications from them, and notifications are configured on a per-creator basis with no global override. Worse, if I remember right, the page’s entire state (for all the creators) was represented in a single, slow HTTP request that was fired off when any checkbox was changed. Unchecking checkboxes quickly (faster than 1/second…

> notifications are configured on a per-creator basis with no global override.

Why is this a huge problem? I am paying the individual artists, and getting communications from them individually.

It's not exactly clear why the typical user would want to Patreon-ize someone and not want to see the music, art or whatever that you are paying for, but if so, you can just turn off notifications when you start following them.

Sure, a global switch would be "nice to have", but it doesn't make the site crippled.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by rlpb »

simonswords82 wrote: post #134

Nextdoor wins my prize for the scummiest human manipulation to increase user signups I've witnessed. I live in the UK in a cul-de-sac with about 25 houses in the street. We've lived here about 4 years and have a dog so we have bumped in to all the neighbours and know all of them by name at least. I get a note through my door from NextDoor claiming to be from a neighbour in my street with a name that we did not recogn…

I got this:

" wants you to be their emergency contact on Nextdoor. In case of emergency, wants their neighbors to be able to message you via Nextdoor. Please accept their invitation to join and connect on Nextdoor so that you can be their emergency contact."

This is scummy manipulation also. They now have my email address. That's an emergency contact, right there. But they aren't going to let anyone use it unless I "join".

I accept that there's a case for needing my permission here. I'd be happy to give them permission to email me if a signed-up neighbour of my family member wants to send me an emergency message. But no, I have to sign up for their entire service first.

I passed, and selected the "don't email me again" option. If my family member wants the neighbors to be able to contact me, then they can pass on my phone or email directly.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by buchoo »

adamredwoods wrote: post #110
toofy wrote: post #63

This seems like the least of the negative impacts nextdoor encourages. i removed myself after months of watching people on this app become more and more paranoid, feeding off each other. the breaking point was when someonea put out a warning that someone had knocked on their door at 7:00pm, “the wife and i were eating dinner when the rude knock came. we crept over to the window, peeked out, and didn’t recognize the p…

At least they did not shoot her. And it's not NextDoor, it's only exposing a larger issue. https://www.vox.com/recode/2019/5/7/18528014/fear-social-med... >> The issue is compounded by the media, Ewoldsen says. >> “If you see more coverage of crime you think it’s more of an issue, even if real-world statistics say it isn’t,” Ewoldsen said. >> And all this is happening at a very contentious point in time, both politic…

Similarly, the effect of media coverage can also be thought to be visible in perceptions of race relations. When polled, Americans say that their local race relations are still near the best they've ever been, but for the past few years have tended to respond more and more negatively about the quality of race relations at a national level — ie, what they perceive through the media and social media.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by Nextgrid »

smt88 wrote: post #54
throwawaylala1 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have one too but it's overrun by jerks. Lots of bickering and ganging up on people.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible to have a neighborhood-based social network that's any different. Even before the internet, this is how HOAs and small town governments behaved.

However, before the internet, pettiness and other unpleasantness had a cost. You wouldn't call up an HOA meeting, send a letter or a phone call to everyone every time you see a dude that you think is "suspicious".

The Internet and platforms like Nextdoor not only reduced that cost to near-zero but actually encourage and reward that behavior since they profit off this "engagement". Middle-class paranoid (and sometimes racist) dumbasses with too much time on their hands are the perfect target for a "growth & engagement" company; they're dumb but far from broke and thus a perfect target market for advertisers.

Re: WTF Nextdoor? Over 130 clicks to disable email and push notifications?

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Post by simonswords82 »

rlpb wrote: post #147
simonswords82 wrote: post #134

Nextdoor wins my prize for the scummiest human manipulation to increase user signups I've witnessed. I live in the UK in a cul-de-sac with about 25 houses in the street. We've lived here about 4 years and have a dog so we have bumped in to all the neighbours and know all of them by name at least. I get a note through my door from NextDoor claiming to be from a neighbour in my street with a name that we did not recogn…

I got this: " wants you to be their emergency contact on Nextdoor. In case of emergency, wants their neighbors to be able to message you via Nextdoor. Please accept their invitation to join and connect on Nextdoor so that you can be their emergency contact." This is scummy manipulation also. They now have my email address. That's an emergency contact, right there. But they aren't going to let anyone use it unless I "…

Man that's so trashy - the team at Nextdoor must be total scumbags to use these tactics.
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