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Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by zamadatix »

After Hangouts died (yeah it's still Google Chat now but it's not the multi-function tool it used to be before they chopped it up to announce a piece is migrating to Chat) I switched to Signal. If I were to do that transition all over again I would do Telegram instead.

Signal sounds nice but it's a bit overbearing - backups are somewhere between difficult to impossible depending on the device, there is no web client, and it's only open source in that you can audit source or run your own independent chat network (3rd party clients on the official server are treated as hostile) not as in it's an open community. Despite all of this kind of stuff being defended for contrived hyper-secure hyper-private reasoning you can't send a chat without giving out your phone number and it's ridiculously easy to cause your verification number to change making people numb to all of the protection in the first place.

I did grab a Telegram account recently but only since Beeper supported it and I figured "why not" so I'm missing out on these features but I almost wonder if I would have even been so excited about new things like Beeper had I went Telegram originally.

Interestingly of all the chat apps WhatsApp and Telegram usage seemed to align heavily. Not sure if that was just a quirk of my friend group or a more general thing.

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by fartcannon »

pizza234 wrote: post #100
fartcannon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very popular with people who value not having their data stored in plaintext.

I use Discord for public communications and I don't mind plaintext storage at all - on the contrary, on public chats, I personally value public history. The last time I've used Matrix actually, usability was a disaster; took me a while to figure out even just how to login, and that wasn't the only problem.

The login screen was too complicated for you, eh?

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by lucb1e »

antirez wrote: post #137
lucb1e wrote: post #135

Read the whole post and I have just one small question... where the heck do I sign up? There is no link, no steps to follow, there is no update available for my clients that would perhaps spawn a subscribe button somewhere... how much does premium even cost? I don't get it. I want to buy it, I've been wanting to pay for this service for so long (it just feels so shady this whole time, it's gigabytes of (unencrypted)…

They will start the rolling out in the next days.

Oh that "This update is being rolled out gradually" refers to the payment becoming available? I thought it was about the text it belongs with, speaking of "over 100 fixes and optimizations" and other stuff, and that the subscription was available now (since "Today we're launching Telegram Premium" in bold up top). Confusing, but thanks for the reply!

Re: 700M users and Premium

#144

Post by afiori »

OmahaBoy69 wrote: post #63
neals wrote: post #10

So who here is using Telegram and for what? I'm consider myself pretty well connected, but I don't have the app. Tell me what I'm missing.

Outside of being great for cross-platform messaging, it's awesome for transferring files. Quick, no restrictions on file extensions, and I've yet to hit a size limit. Great for building an APK and shooting it off to my friends + other devices. It's also great for piracy. There's a channel I'm in with links to updated Nintendo Switch modpacks as well as one for premium STL files.

File size limit is about 2GB

Re: 700M users and Premium

#145

Post by rejectfinite »

izacus wrote: post #111
rejectfinite wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord does all this too? + the server rooms.

Discord UI is also all kinds of awful for personal messaging and full of gamery features. :/

DMs work just fine. I use both Discord and Telegram btw :)

"Gamery" features like voice calls, video calls, videostreaming an application or videostreaming your desktop?? :D

Servers where you can talk/do/post whatever? And just drop in?

Now I use both but Telegram feels more like Whatsapp to me with 1 to 1 convos and Discord is more of the Teamspeak/Mumble philosophy where its a voice room/server.

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by afiori »

fritigern wrote: post #87
aksgoel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interestingly, Telegram by default is not even end to end encrypted.

Neither is WhatsApp. It's a closed source app, no one outside of Meta knows if it is actually encrypted properly.

I always wondered how feasible it is to analyze whatsapp network traffic to test their claims.

Re: 700M users and Premium

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Post by rejectfinite »

f1refly wrote: post #117
rejectfinite wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord does all this too? + the server rooms.

Discord drowns me in notification I neither need nor care about, is not customizable and doen't have native clients. Their "haha see we are a gamer community" is very alienating.

Notifications depends on the servers you join and can be adjusted per server.

True that it is not very customizable. And yes it is electron.

They rebranded recently - https://discord.com/ Not very gamery

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