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Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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I hate the way the health-care system works and how it's affected me and those close to me. I spent much of my adult life paying off medical debt exactly like they describe. Defrayed by parents somewhat, but still a significant burden for many years. On one hand, we have debt and bankruptcy as a tool to help individuals deal with costs that would be impossible to save up for. On the other hand, this quote from the ar…

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Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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post #74

Interesting: > For many Americans, debt from medical or dental care may be relatively low. About a third owe less than $1,000, the KFF poll found. I wonder how they'd count me, who puts all expenses on a credit card and pays it off each month, technically I'm going into debt ...

I also intentionally go in to debt for any of my expenses subject to deductible, because my hospital offers zero-interest payment plans. I then pay their payment plan with a credit card, get 2% back, and pay it off at the end of the month.

I'm very surprised they do not charge the credit card processing fee here. But I guess since you are actually paying they are making such high margin they don't even care.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

#144
Tangential to health care debt, Some times I wonder if the only true innovation happens in facilitating debt and making huge debt seem like easily tackleable. 30yr mortgage, 15 and 10yr arm, car payments sold as “only $199 a month!”. Buy now pay later is the latest in a long line of these encouraging people to pile on debt.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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post #73

Still better than dealing with rationing. The rest of the world better hope the US never goes socialist with health care - kiss innovation goodbye.

I don't think "The Atrocious American Way of Doing Healthcare" and "Rationing" are the only two options available.

Also, note that 63% of the people in debt are already literally rationing.

"Cut spending on food, clothing, and other basics" - 63%

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

#146

I hate the way the health-care system works and how it's affected me and those close to me. I spent much of my adult life paying off medical debt exactly like they describe. Defrayed by parents somewhat, but still a significant burden for many years. On one hand, we have debt and bankruptcy as a tool to help individuals deal with costs that would be impossible to save up for. On the other hand, this quote from the ar…

The entirety of the US economy is tuned to create debt; healthcare is just one example of it.

Yes. Debt is the entire story of the American economy, from top to bottom, it's not inherently evil. It's useful for creating new wealth. But of course it gets misused also.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

#147

Just watched John Q (2002) last night, and can't believe that despite all the attention it gets, nothing has changed at all. Can't say I'm surprised though.

Basically the way things work in the US is that even if you can get an overwhelming majority of people to agree that something is a problem, you will never get them to agree on a solution. In this instance, the two proposed solutions are: make healthcare the government's responsibility like many countries that don't have this problem, or do nothing because that solution isn't perfect.

Further, neither side (seems to) accept incremental change and loves making the perfect the enemy of the good -- especially, imo, the left -- so they get nothing and complain about it.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

#148

I always figured that the reason why I make as much money as possible is so that I can pay for medical expenses when things go wrong.

Unless you make millions, it's unlikely your finances could survive an ICU admission.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

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> Elizabeth Woodruff drained her retirement account and took on three jobs after she and her husband were sued for nearly $10,000 by the New York hospital where his infected leg was amputated. I'm not sure what sort of retirement they had planned to have on less than 10k, but it looks like in this case the hospital knew they could afford to pay but preferred not to. When people use number of jobs rather than hours wo…

> Average nurse practitioner salary 115k. Why are they putting medical debt on credit cards? Are you asking why they couldn't afford 70% of an average salary (which, there is a 50% chance this person made less than the average) in one shot? Your entire post seems to be victim blaming based on a few sentences of context. You don't know what other debts and obligations these people had, nor what other avenues they trie…

Maybe what they are asking is how someone making an average of 115k, who is also in healthcare doesn’t have better health coverage and still decides to have a kid.

Re: Sick and struggling to pay, 100M people in the U.S. live with medical debt

#150
By the way, if you'd actually like to do something about this that benefits real people right now, RIP Medical Debt (mentioned in the article and has good ratings) buys debt at 1% of its face value and immediately forgives it.

https://ripmedicaldebt.org

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