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Re: Sunsetting Atom

#141
Atom was my first go to editor years ago when its git integration felt miles ahead. Then I saw gitglass(?) in VS Code and was moved to switch for shared workspace files at my job. I remember it as lightweight and fun.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#142

Atom has been dead for years, this is just the state funeral. The situation now is: * Sublime for the Williamsburg corpo-hipsters * emacs and vim for the wizards and furries * VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor * WebStorm for the chads with the monster rigs to run it

"VSCode for all the normies" ... feels weird. Maybe it's true. But I feel like VSCode rose 1:1 with Typescript, and I kind of resent it because I associate it with script kiddies around me cargo-culting React in places it isn't needed and writing thousands of lines of overcomplicated javascript to "manage state" on pages that don't even need to have any. It's also noticeably slower than Sublime, which makes switching…

>JS minimalist

I mean, just that phrase sounds very "Williamsburg corpo-hipster" to me. Minimal, artisan javascript.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#143

I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode? I had to help a developer setup deploys to a dev server from vscode the other day and I wanted to pull my hair out. I'll admit it's at least in part due to not using vscode myself but I was a heavy Sublime Text user which is very similar to vscode when it comes to how you…

I personally use CLion for all my C/C++ work, even preferring it over Visual Studio proper. It handles the environments, builds, build systems, etc for me a so I can focus on programming. VSCode is what I use for everything else (mostly Python, Golang, Web stuff) when I don't need the IDE overhead.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#144

Atom has been dead for years, this is just the state funeral. The situation now is: * Sublime for the Williamsburg corpo-hipsters * emacs and vim for the wizards and furries * VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor * WebStorm for the chads with the monster rigs to run it

* Textmate & BBEdit for people who were using Macs for development before they took over the tech industry.

All 3 of them?

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#145
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the community actually cares enough, they can fork it and continue on with development.

Probably under a new name - I’d expect MS to be in control of the “Atom” trademark and branding, and they would stop further use.

I'd expect them to put the project out to Apache pasture (Apasture?).

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#146

I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode? I had to help a developer setup deploys to a dev server from vscode the other day and I wanted to pull my hair out. I'll admit it's at least in part due to not using vscode myself but I was a heavy Sublime Text user which is very similar to vscode when it comes to how you…

I switch back and forth between IntelliJ products and VSCode.

As a pure editor I prefer VSCode. It's fast and has a great plugin ecosystem. Another great feature is that it's config is just a JSON file that I can put into git and push it to my dotfiles repo making it easy to share config on all of my machines.

However, there's just some functionality in IntelliJ that I miss in VSCode like running tests. Of course there are plugins but they are all clunky and don't give you the great UX that IntelliJ does. I want the IDE to figure out where all the tests are and give me an easy way to run a single test/file/suite/feature. IMHO this is the killer IntelliJ feature for me.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#147

Atom has been dead for years, this is just the state funeral. The situation now is: * Sublime for the Williamsburg corpo-hipsters * emacs and vim for the wizards and furries * VSCode for all the normies who just want to get on with doing their job and don't feel a need to express their identity or politics through choice of editor * WebStorm for the chads with the monster rigs to run it

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Re: Sunsetting Atom

#148

I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode? I had to help a developer setup deploys to a dev server from vscode the other day and I wanted to pull my hair out. I'll admit it's at least in part due to not using vscode myself but I was a heavy Sublime Text user which is very similar to vscode when it comes to how you…

> I know a lot of people love vscode but are there any people who have tried something like IDEA/WebStorm/PHPStorm/etc that then went back to vscode?

I know a few people like this. More or less, they all got burned by some technical issue that made IDEA unusable for them one day, so they quickly cobbled together a bunch of extensions in VS Code just to get their work done and stayed.

Re: Sunsetting Atom

#150
post #78

“Sunsetting” an open source project seems… unfitting? Hand it off to the community, look for new maintainers, donate it to the Apache Retirement Home for Veteran Projects, sure. But saying that you’ve decided to “sunset” or “archive” it, telling users to plan for their migration, seems counter to the notion that open source software forms part of a commons - something that Github, of all companies, should understand.

No it's perfectly reasonable. That open source software forms some part of a commons is not really a thing in practice. Open source software is ran by maintainers, those maintainers own the projects, and they do with the software what they deem fit. And even if it were, VSCode is basically a rewrite of Atom that reuses a big chunk of the original codebase, they're the same sort of project serving the same sort of mar…

> And even if it were, VSCode is basically a rewrite of Atom that reuses a big chunk of the original codebase

Atom and VSCode projects have always been separate projects. Both using Electron does not mean they share a codebase, not in the normal sense of the phrase.

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