Kagi search and Orion browser enter public beta

You may as well enjoy it while the price is lower then!

I'm very happy to see that Kagi is succeeding! I've been using it for about 3 months and I can concur with others that the search results are superb, on par with or above in quality of Google's. This is an impressive feat! And the ability to down- or upvote sites in the search results makes it even better. During my testing I only resorted to checking Google less than a dozen times and each time I concluded that Google doesn't have better results either.

As far as the cost go, I hoped for a lower figure but based on my experience it does worth $10/mo without a doubt! I trust Vlad has done the math properly on the costs and as an IT guy, I know that it's far from free to provide such service. And, on the benefit side: good quality search results saves you time, lets you find the correct solution rather than going down a rabbit hole. And without ads you are less likely to click on a spam or scam link.

But, of course, everybody's situation and priorities are different. An ad, spam, scam and privacy violation free search engine might not be as valuable to you as to me or others. Then you can simply use any of the other ad-supported search engines. I think the price is quite reasonable and in alignment with the costs of providing the service. And it's likely that as the user base grows and more and more search result caching opportunity will be available and the costs will come down. It's a new and pioneering approach which I think will give us a very valuable alternative to the current, declining quality search engines.

I also agree with Vlad on concentrating on quality and sustainability, rather than lightning fast expansion of the user base. This approach is a lot better in the long term and would help it to stay independent of other influences. With that said I'm really hoping that Kagi will stay clear of getting merged with some big tech company and its core values getting twisted along with that. That's another reason to put some user support behind to help Kagi make it.

Mullvad would be one of the prime examples here:

> Which payment methods do you accept?

> We accept cash, Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Monero, bank wire, credit card, PayPal, Swish, Giropay, Eps transfer, Bancontact, iDEAL, and Przelewy24. With credit card and PayPal, you have the option to set up a monthly recurring subscription.

> Can I really pay with cash?

> You bet, and please! Stay anonymous all the way. Just put your cash and payment token (randomly generated on our website) in an envelope and send it to us. We accept the following currencies: EUR, USD, GBP, SEK, DKK, NOK, CHF, CAD, AUD, NZD.

https://mullvad.net/en/pricing/

I thought Kagi was a payment processor for shareware.