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Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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I am the 37 year old CTO and co-founder of a company that pays VMWare something like that per year because we need an endpoint management solution. We have a strong engineering team but that certainly isn’t something we are going to build ourselves. VMWare is not just virtualization.

whats an „endpoint management solution“

Access control/management for corporate networks and networked resources.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Enterprise software is such a mystery to me. I can't imagine any company ran by To me it just looks like older companies paying to keep from having to deal with Linux directly

I am the 37 year old CTO and co-founder of a company that pays VMWare something like that per year because we need an endpoint management solution. We have a strong engineering team but that certainly isn’t something we are going to build ourselves. VMWare is not just virtualization.

Grove.co is a great example because it is totally not a software company. Is your role as CTO primarily the ERP & storefront, or just one or the other? I'm not following what you mean by endpoint (other than "storefront" because ERP would all be a SaaS right?)

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am the 37 year old CTO and co-founder of a company that pays VMWare something like that per year because we need an endpoint management solution. We have a strong engineering team but that certainly isn’t something we are going to build ourselves. VMWare is not just virtualization.

whats an „endpoint management solution“

Compliance based stuff... "do you trust this machine to access your network/services/applications and execute these commands?"

https://www.crowdstrike.com/cybersecurity-101/endpoint-secur...

(the VMWare owned product isn't CrowdStrike, that just had the best SEO page with a clear description. VMWare have Carbon Black which is the other dominant player in this market https://www.vmware.com/uk/products/whats-new/carbon-black.ht... )

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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I work for a small company and they seem to have figured this out 20 years ago. I've been tasked with supporting the network and I've got to say that all the fancy (or not) proprietary firewalls all seem like a pick your own poison of cost/support issues, and they all go end of life eventually but the network needs to keep running. We also use PFSense in a few places and I think the feeling among the operations team…

I use PFSense and Snort at home and it's perfectly fine for the price I paid for it, but enterprise grade it ain't. I wouldn't use it to protect a network worth more than my beer budget. I don't know what business you're in and maybe after a nightly tape backup there's nothing important for you to lose. Frankly that's most small businesses. But if you've got real trade secrets get a proper IDS/IPS before you regret i…

Sure, the networking thing is a part time job for all of us, and there's even been some talk of bringing in professional services to look over it a bit. But my question is, what would we get? The whole IDS/IPS/WAF industry seems pretty much dripping in snakeoil. It seems like Cisco was once the king, but has lost a lot of respect. Palo Alto seems to be the current fashion but unless you have a serious alcohol problem, it's going to exceed your beer budget. I worked with Imperva and Alert Logic back in the day and no one ever seemed too impressed with them. Then there's SonicWall which seems reviled and Fortigate which seems like the reasonable budget option. I'm sure there's tons others I'm not even aware of.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#146
Probably an insignificant detail when considering the entire portfolio of subsidiaries and services under VMWare, but I guess there are some pretty notable projects included in this acquisition.

Especially from the Pivotal portfolio such as RabbitMQ, GreenPlum, Spring, Hibernate, etc... although I'm sure most here couldn't care less about Spring related projects.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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It's a big plus in the corporate world to be able to outsource support. It's worth it for companies to pay VMWare, Microsoft, etc. larges sums of money for support contracts so they have someone to call when things break. While Microsoft sells Windows Server, they also try really hard to add on support contracts with it. Paying several thousand dollars a year for a support contract is probably cheaper than paying sal…

Sometimes for me it seems like they pay to "get the façade of talking directly to people in suits" rather than having to deal with technies.

> it seems like they pay to "get the façade of talking directly to people in suits" rather than having to deal with technies

Broadly speaking, anyone generalising the world into suits and techies needs a translation layer between them and anyone else.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Enterprise software is such a mystery to me. I can't imagine any company ran by To me it just looks like older companies paying to keep from having to deal with Linux directly

Just for a second, imagine a company that isn't a software company, but needs software to run its business. Think manufacturing, logistics, shipping, construction, food (industrial scale egg production, for example) etc. There's a lot of companies like that out there...in fact it's almost all of them. Those companies run all their boring, essential software (accounting, ERPs, etc.) on VMWare, Oracle, Azure, etc. Sinc…

but thats just it, this argument only ever works if you dont care about performance or features and believe the marketing. You make eggs, and your target fixation only allows you to see eggs, so these companies hold some mysterious value to you.

KVM performance is orders of magnitude better than VMWare and handles migrations snapshots imports and exports without additional byzantine license agreements or mandatory minimums for hardware support on network switches and servers. Cockpit makes it dead simple to run.

Oracle performance is so awful the license terms do not allow you to release performance benchmarks or comparative analysis against other databases. it also has all the same heavy lifting you need to focus on for things like galera clusters or postgres, so theres no clear win unless you like paying Larry for the privilege of slow transactionals on a hyperconverged iron beast, or youre too lazy to figure out ODBC.

And Symantec so openly hates their customers they now bundle a cryptominer with their software. before that their incompetence was so blinding Google had to step in and force them to give up their CA business.

"enterprise" software is an absurd proposition for anyone smart enough to realize their business is more than just the end product. to everyone else, these companies are borderline predatory.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#149
For anyone curious about potential open-source migration options given the prospect of uncertainty around VMware pricing and support:

- xcp-ng[1] is a support-available fork of XenServer. Migration[2] can be performed using export to OVA format and subsequent import into the built-in Xen-Orchestra interface.

- proxmox-ve[3] provides a management UI for Linux Virtual Machine (LVM) and Linux Containers (LXC) hosts and provides various vendor migration guides[4]. Both commercial and community support[5] is available.

- The Xen Hypervisor[6] is capable of hosting x86 and ARM virtual hosts, and their project provides a VMware migration guide[7]

[1] - https://xcp-ng.com/

[2] - https://xcp-ng.org/docs/migratetoxcpng.html#from-vmware

[3] - https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve

[4] - https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Migration_of_servers_to_Proxmox...

[5] - https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve/support

[6] - https://xenproject.org/developers/teams/xen-hypervisor/

[7] - https://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Migration_from_VMware

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am the 37 year old CTO and co-founder of a company that pays VMWare something like that per year because we need an endpoint management solution. We have a strong engineering team but that certainly isn’t something we are going to build ourselves. VMWare is not just virtualization.

I'm in a senior position but not CEO. I'd pay VMware for virtualization as it just works compared to the complexity of opensource solutions. For endpoint mgmt, I'm curious about your use case? Is it about managing virtual endpoints in the cloud, on-prem servers (physical or virtual) or are you talking about laptops/workstations?

Laptops and workstations. We use Workspace ONE.
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