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Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Post by teh_klev »

nicce wrote: post #17

Article is misleading. Yandex is not part of the sanctions yet. Electricity was cut simply because they failed to make a new contract. Finnish source: https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-2000008786328.html

The article title is misleading, but it does mention in the body of the story that:

"The reasons for the disconnection are not clear, as Yandex is not currently on sanctions lists, but its news and blogging services, as well as a senior executive, have been criticized for spreading Russian propaganda"

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Post by weberer »

medo-bear wrote: post #84
can16358p wrote: post #75

> at a current price of €2.175 per 1 liter What? €2175 per liter of diesel? Am I missing something? /edit: nvm I misinterpreted decimal point as a thousands seperator.

in some places across EU decimal points are thousands separators and commas indicate decimals. i find this confusing too

Its not even consistent either. One local supermarket uses periods, the other uses commas. My banking app uses periods, but MobilePay uses commas.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Post by hjoldic »

avianlyric wrote: post #126
fosk wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This war has proven that as long as national interests are strong enough, those economical ties most likely won't last..which is a scary precedent for Europe in general.

I think Russia is the wrong place to look for what European countries will and won’t do. On the whole the EU project, and the approach of tight economic ties across the continent has been a huge success. Until Ukraine there hasn’t been a war in Europe for 75 years. Before the EU and the drive to economic integration, Europe had been in a state of almost perpetual war between the different states. Even today the econo…

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Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Post by wongarsu »

thinkindie wrote: post #91
skissane wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia has a lot of special characteristics which most other European states lack: (1) huge population and area; (2) permanent member of UN Security Council; (3) accepted nuclear weapons state with one of world’s largest nuclear arsenals; (4) superpower with a massive multi-decade empire only 3-4 decades ago. Few other European states have any or all of these characteristics; UK and France probably come the closest,…

also - any French or British imperialist intentions toward any territory in Europe are gone since Napoleon (and UK had none toward Europe). At the same time, Soviet Union, which just took over the zarist empire, only ended 30 years ago. You can totally see from Russian propaganda that they are still looking at re-instating Soviet Union/zar empire. I see this as pure soviet/zar/russian/nationalist revenge.

Napoleon died in 1821. For French ambitions on German territory alone there was the Rhine crisis of 1840 [1], the Franco-Prussian War of 1870 [2], followed by French Revanchism [3] over the loss of Alsace-Lorraine, which they regained in WWI with the Treaty of Versailles. In 1923 there was the Occupation of the Ruhr [4]. Then in the aftermath of WWII France tried to take the Saar Protectorate, but with the EU slowly taking shape with the formation of the ECSC and the EEC instead a referendum happened and the territory went back to Germany.

Maybe notions of owning all of Europe ceased with Napoleon, but France trying to extend its borders Eastwards was happening right until the EU took shape.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhine_crisis

2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War

3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revanchism

4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_the_Ruhr

5: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Protectorate

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Post by medo-bear »

can16358p wrote: post #130
vultour wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty obvious a liter of diesel cannot cost 2175EUR, so I don't understand how one can make this mistake even if they use the reverse.

Hence I asked whether I was missing something.

yeah be careful if you need to write some financial code :)

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Post by m55au »

dredmorbius wrote: post #110
RamRodification wrote: post #59

RBC calculates that running a 40MW data center on diesel would require 12,000 liters of diesel fuel per hour Holy crap

Checking that out: You have: 40 MWh You want: tonoil * 3.4393809 / 0.29075 You have: 1 tonoil You want: barreloil * 6.8419323 / 0.14615754 You have: 6.84 barrel You want: liter * 1087.4731 / 0.00091956298 So, roughly 1,100 litres of oil per 40 MWh(thermal). The generator is likely ~30% efficient at converting heat to eletricity, so bump that up to 3,700 litres/hour. Even allowing for other inefficiencies, 12,000 litr…

No need to complicate things with obscure units.

  You have: 40 MW/30% / (10722.2 W*hr/L)
  You want: L/hr
   40 MW/30% / (10722.2 W*hr/L) = 12435.259 L/hr

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

_1tan wrote: post #108
nicce wrote: post #17

Article is misleading. Yandex is not part of the sanctions yet. Electricity was cut simply because they failed to make a new contract. Finnish source: https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-2000008786328.html

Legally Yandex is well integrated into the EU. Their main co. is a dutch, public company. Not sure how sanctions should work in this case.

For tax reasons only. We call them "brievenbus firma". They don't have any actual operations here.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Post by nogenhat »

the-lazy-guy wrote: post #133
petre wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It went from a post Soviet klepto capiltalist society to crony feudalism. Those are Putin's reforms . Every big business is controlled by Putin's mafia: Rosneft, Gazprom, Sberbank, VK, Yandex, etc. It mirrors Russia during Ivan the Terrible's rule quite well. Feudalism has no place in the 21st centrury.

I can't speak for other companies mentioned (for most of them Russian government is the biggest shareholder, so I think you are right), but Yandex is not and has never been controlled by people close to Putin. I would like to see examples of this control, if you have any. Though Yandex has to follow government regulations (especially in its media department), a lot of which are obviously biased.

heh, ok lets see: 1. Golden stock which one gave veto on all decision was hold by Sberbank. 2. 2019 year, Russian gov takeover Yandex corporate structure: https://www.rbc.ru/technology_and_media/18/11/2019/5dd263f59... basically Volozh gave up Yandex to government. 3. Current position where Yandex is choose to silently agree with war - best proof that the company controlled by small people from fsb :) And yes, be silent and don't state your position - the same as supporting the war. And I don't talk about small things like: 1. Yandex news where you can read only pro-government news :) 2. Tigran meeting with Putin and don't make a statement.

Re: Yandex data center in Finland loses power due to contract termination

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Post by throw-ru-938 »

avianlyric wrote: post #126
fosk wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This war has proven that as long as national interests are strong enough, those economical ties most likely won't last..which is a scary precedent for Europe in general.

I think Russia is the wrong place to look for what European countries will and won’t do. On the whole the EU project, and the approach of tight economic ties across the continent has been a huge success. Until Ukraine there hasn’t been a war in Europe for 75 years. Before the EU and the drive to economic integration, Europe had been in a state of almost perpetual war between the different states. Even today the econo…

> Until Ukraine there hasn’t been a war in Europe for 75 years.

You forgot the Yugoslav wars in the 1990s.

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