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Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by FrenchAmerican »

deng wrote: post #82

I just switched to LineageOS 18 w/ MicroG and oh my lord is this stuff still complicated. I'm fairly familiar with this stuff and yet still it took me many hours to set everything up correctly. To be clear, this is not the fault of LineageOS, this is simply the state of the FOSS Android environment and the fact that Google has no interest in supporting this setup whatsoever, to put it mildly. Not only is it complicat…

After hesitation, I opted to go full on the "privacy above all" path - out of curiosity if it was possible and bearable.

So no root, no GFS or substitute at all. Only tracer free apps (except my bank) and using browsers.

I use a set of privacy add-ons (canvas fingerprinting etc) for wandering on the web and the "WebApps" app to isolate the web sites I use regularly and where I need to log into my account.

Then the TrackerControl app lets me allow or block connections per app and by destination.

Of course, this choice implies to renounce certain services without a web version, but I'm happy with the tradeoff (less time spent procrastining by consuming social networks content).

It's a bit annoying at first but I paid $80 for this secondhand phone (including a good new battery). Within weeks I didn't notice anymore that speed difference with a native web app.

That difference of speed exists, of course, but I'm fine with the whole tradeoff.

Not being at all a security expert, I did my best - following advice found on the net.

How far is my privacy better protected though? I can't really know - that's my only true frustration. I see very few ads and they look poorly targeted.

Well, sorry for the long post, this was just to mention another possible path: no GSF or substitute at all, no root.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by Vladimof »

nfriedly wrote: post #24

I'm still pissed at Google for locking the bootloader on my Pixel 2. I bought the phone unlocked directly from Google, specifically so that I could install a custom ROM once Google stopped supporting it. But I sent the phone in to repair a broken USB port, and apparently it was Google's policy to send back a phone with a locked bootloader any time you get a repair. I can't even get a response from Google's support ab…

While that stinks, I purchased not too long ago a used Google Pixel 3 for about $70 on Swappa.com and have been happily running LineageOS without GAPPS ever since.

I didn't know that 19.1 was released until now but it looks like it can't be installed using the updater on that phone.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by slavik81 »

cxr wrote: post #80
nfriedly wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was never a publicly stated policy and, anecdotally, they seem to have stopped doing it on newer phones. But one person escalated to a manager (because the first-level support staff didn't understand the difference between carrier unlocking and bootloader unlocking), and the manager stated that it was their policy. And, yeah, I agree that it's probably the worst of all situations. If I'd have known that a google r…

Are you in the US? It doesn't solve the issue that you now have to deal with, but if you paid for the "repair" service, I'd have considered cancelling the payment through my bank.

Is that safe? I would assume that disputing a transaction with Google would get you locked out of all Google services.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by RealStickman_ »

SECProto wrote: post #115
lazyier wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't buy a phone that I can't run LineageOS on. MicroG. Life is too short to struggle and play games with the spyware that ships on phones by default nowadays. Better to be able to blow it all away.

> I won't buy a phone that I can't run LineageOS on. MicroG. I won't buy one that doesn't have an aux port. Do you know any lineage-supporting modern phones that have an aux port (and an SD slot, ideally!) by chance?

How modern? I'm currently thinking about getting an S10, though there are also even more modern phones that would eet your criterea.

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by billsix »

josephcsible wrote: post #96
billsix wrote: post #5

I love Lineage and used it as my main phone OS but since my carrier required in February for VoLTE to work, I can’t receive or make phone calls anymore.

If your SIM card is really old, some carriers need you to get a new SIM card for VoLTE to work, no matter what phone you have. Also, this is probably a dumb question, but are you on the latest build of LineageOS?

Yeah I update it every week

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by billsix »

nobodywasishere wrote: post #14
billsix wrote: post #5

I love Lineage and used it as my main phone OS but since my carrier required in February for VoLTE to work, I can’t receive or make phone calls anymore.

Which phone / carrier? I've been using VoLTE on a Pixel 4a with AT&T, and have heard other devices working with T-mobile as well.

Moto g7 plus on straight talk (using att sim I think)

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by joemazerino »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #33
nfriedly wrote: post #24

I'm still pissed at Google for locking the bootloader on my Pixel 2. I bought the phone unlocked directly from Google, specifically so that I could install a custom ROM once Google stopped supporting it. But I sent the phone in to repair a broken USB port, and apparently it was Google's policy to send back a phone with a locked bootloader any time you get a repair. I can't even get a response from Google's support ab…

Did they send you back a Verizon phone? Verizon Pixels have locked bootloaders due to Verizon's own policies. They say they are "unlocked" but they only mean carrier-wise. Source: Owned a Verizon Pixel 1 that I sold due to it having a locked bootloader. Anecdotally, I purchased a 4a 5g from Google with a dead headphone jack. My replacement also had an unlocked bootloader though I think it was also new.

Google refurbs are bootloader locked. Probably old Verizon stock

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by dTal »

user_7832 wrote: post #89
karteum wrote: post #10

I wish that LineageOS could accept the "signature spoofing" patch that is needed for microg (possibly with a toggle switch that would be "off" by default), so that we could avoid the need for the less-frequently-updated https://lineage.microg.org/ and properly install apps from Play Store without the Google Service Framework (that essentially give root access to Google on your smartphone). (and actually I also wish t…

I believe the reason Lineage doesn't do this (along with things like SafetyNet spoofing/passing) is to stay on the right side of Google et al. This way there's never a threat of a legal shutdown à la Vanced. If Lineage was backed by big foundations/folks with deep pockets that could change. I have no idea why GrapheneOS takes this risk, but am grateful to them nevertheless for the code.

Perhaps I'm not understanding the issue - what legal standing does Google have to object? "Terms of service violation"?

Re: LineageOS 19

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Post by realusername »

nfriedly wrote: post #139
soperj wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds like it's class-action worthy.

You're not wrong, although I'd be a little hesitant to start that because my job is somewhat dependent on being in google's good graces (and I've definitely heard of entire companies being banned when a single employee - or even former employee's - account gets flagged.) Also, I find it unlikely that we could compel google to do the right thing and unlock everyone's phones, even if we won. I think the more likely out…

> I'd be a little hesitant to start that because my job is somewhat dependent on being in google's good graces

It's clearly becoming mafia-like, you are afraid of them just because of their reach.

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