Why do you people even use Twitter? It's one giant pile of crappy content and dark ux patterns. What did you expect? That they'd play nice forever? Are you really new to this? Did your preschool not have a sandbox?
Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted
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> Twitter is under no obligation to retain this kind of stuff on your behalf. They declared something worked one way then silently changed how that thing works without properly announcing the change first and giving people enough time to adapt. Would you still be willing to make these excuses if your emails provider decided to do the same thing? Even if it's their system, there's a limit where people would rightfully…
An email provider (which you most likely pay for - and don't publish on a website) is very different to a social media site (that you don't pay for and want it out in the public) It's a free service that they provide - why can they not change how their system works when they want? People can object whenever they want - but it doesn't change the fact that they don't have any 'rights' to show someone elses content via…
I disagree. Twitter doesn't own that content. Someone posting the Twitter JS on their website to allow Twitter to format the tweet to Twitter's brand standards and allow a link to drive traffic back to Twitter is a favour that they're doing Twitter. They should respect that favour by not changing the contract unilaterally.
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"If you want to act as a repository for the public record, you better use your own system." I deliberately chose Twitter's JavaScript because I inspected the design of how it worked and saw that they had deliberately built it in a way that would respect my preferences for how deletion should be handled. They've changed that on me - without even announcing the change. This is a rug-pull. Now I have to replace their co…
Why did you trust them from the beginning? Serious question.
We trusted them because they were committed to being part of the wider web, and as you can see from Ben Ward's tweet at the time, took that seriously.
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#144Re: Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted
#145I am not particularly upset by this. You choose to embed JavaScript that interoperates with your website to make tweets look like Twitter … Twitter has decided that deleted tweets look like nothing now … that’s what you wanted.
Apparently the “contract” that Twitter would preserve the text of a deleted tweet was a tweet from some random employee.
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#146> Tampering with the public record Oh come off it already. What a remarkably brain dead opinion. Twitter _is not a public utility_. It owes you _nothing_. Their property, their decision. That simple. I do have an issue with the idea of their JS manipulating your own website but fuck off with this "Twitter is a public service" argument. - They don't have to give you an account - You are not entitled to make demands of…
If Twitter is not a public service, it shouldn't be used for official communication by government representatives.
Public service means government run. A newspaper isn't a public service (in the US), but official notices can and do appear there. Even if no one reads the newspaper anymore. Same thing with private broadcasters like CNN, Fox News, etc. Public service has a specific definition.
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#147> However, Twitter has broken this API contract.
What contract?
Re: Twitter is using its embedded JavaScript to hide tweets that have been deleted
#148Functionality aside embedding random scripts from twitter seems like a big risk for security and privacy. At a minimum, it should probably be embedded in a sandboxed iframe. Just taking a screenshot, and linking to the tweet, seems like a more robust solution, that won't randomly stop working, and doesn't have the same privacy issues.
That said, screenshots of such things bear their own problems in terms of accessibility for screen readers and other supportive devices.
The unstyled blockquote is probably enough, without pulling down the JS to embed twitter's marketing, tracking, and whatever else they might be observing.
Is it necessary for a quoted tweet to look exactly like it came from Twitter when the text and a link serves an identical purpose?
That said, if someone wants to delete a tweet or otherwise correct the record, are you prepared to issue a correction of your own when quoting a tweet? The internet is particularly unforgiving when it comes to this.
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#149Are we going to have a lot of similar posts? This sounds like expected bevahiour if you're inserting someone's JavaScript in your page
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Twitter is making a privacy tradeoff by removing content from my website in the case where it doesn’t have anything to enhance the content with? That sure seems hostile.
Is it still just your website if you rely on Twitter integration to style certain portions of it and populate it with content (or at very least add metadata of said content)? Seems more of a collaborative effort.