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Re: Start Self Hosting

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Moru wrote: post #73
rank0 wrote: post #30

I run a few services from my home but still have to rely on aws/fly.io for some portions of my infrastructure. I really want is to learn how to rent rack space from a colocation. The documentation available does not make it easy to learn. Can I just buy an old 1U blade, throw xen on it and show up at my nearest colo? What do I need to preconfigure to ensure I have remote access without giving remote access to the col…

With the ones I have used you just click around on the homepage selecting what you want on the server and then pay. Some sell second hand repurposed servers on auction that they will set up for you. A while later you get an SSH login on the server and that's it, your server is running somewhere in a basement/bunker/old mine and you can go visit it if you want but in general you can do everything remote. There is even…

In your experience did you have to sign up with a partner ISP at the colo? Or is that done for me and just part of my colo bill?

Is power use included as well?

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Post by edgyquant »

blenderdt wrote: post #35

Self hosting is hard. You need to take care of security, backups, software updates, software installation and so on. Even on something like a QNAP (which can be compared to managed hosting) this can be hard. Flip the wrong switch and you expose something to the world. Missed a security update: your device is now vulnerable. While I host a lot of things myself I can understand self hosting is not for everyone.

I used to love running my own servers with all the services etc. I’d manually write beautiful bash scripts to keep it all nice and easy to rebuild on the fly. My first job had 10 Ubuntu servers (on site) and I was the only guy who used Linux at home and had experience with sql.

I have never volunteered to maintain servers since, it was horrible and everything was always my fault (it kinda was, I was a hobbyist at best with no real production Linux experience.)

I do still end up as the dev ops/infra guy at every place I’ve worked but at this point I’m probably one of those stubborn senior guys who wouldn’t like the way the juniors went about it.

Re: Start Self Hosting

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pkulak wrote: post #79
kerblang wrote: post #39

You know what would be kind of neat? Like, a web site you'd go to called makemeoneofthose.com, and you'd click some buttons, and then sometime later you'd have a hosting setup that you own with some software, web server(s) and database(s) on it, and then you can go hack on it yourself, add some features, whatever. Like they send you some AWS keys and say "It's all yours. Good luck and don't forget to pay your hosting…

We used to host our own software. It was called an application and it ran on your personal computer. We just need that, but running on some appliance instead, like a NAS. Package the service up in something like docker-compose, have a way to sell it, install it, update it and support it. Synology is pretty close with their Docker support, but still pretty far.

The problem is you’re fighting a battle against global economies of scale for what is essentially a hobby or personal project. This is not a winning battle and most companies prefer to outsource the risk to someone else they can point to shareholders and blame.

People get caught up in the technical aspects of developing for cloud but I’d bet those weren’t anywhere near as important as risk outsourcing for the executive. At that point cloud was still new and the thought was we can run our infra if we need to.

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Post by robbomacrae »

I want to run my servers from both AWS as well as my laptop. At the moment the configuration and deployment of each is unique which, apart form being a bit of a hassle, also means there might be issues on one i cannot reproduce on the other. It would be really cool if there was a way I could deploy to my machine with awscli and self host my own beanstalk setup so I can test and debug even offline safe in the knowledge it will work exactly the same.

Are there any projects that offer something like this?

Re: Start Self Hosting

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Post by aimor »

macinjosh wrote: post #111
brettermeier wrote: post #57

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I tried it but there are so many traps you can fall in, like security settings as mentioned by you. When i had my server online back then, it was hacked 1 week later :D

I hear a lot of stories like this. I've been self-hosting for a few years out of my home. I have a symmetrical gigabit fiber connection. My IP changes very frequently (DDNS and a low TTL solves that problem for my use cases). _anyway_ I haven't been hacked.. yet. /me knocks on wood The precautions I take are basic: - Use unique and secure credentials on each service I expose. - I only expose ports 80 and 443 to the p…

I'm interested in how you set up your home and hosting networks without any shared hardware. I've been running my own websites from home for awhile on their own machines, but never considered they could be on a completely separate network all the way up to the modem.

Re: Start Self Hosting

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kodah wrote: post #98

Self-hosting is something that we should be constantly iterating on making easier; it's really the path forward for privacy centric folks. The main challenges are managing workload scheduling (SystemD is complicated for a layperson). Networking is another challenge; for instance, if you wanted all or part of these services to remain offline or on a Mesh VPN there's a lot of knowledge required. There's some projects t…

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kodah wrote: post #98

Self-hosting is something that we should be constantly iterating on making easier; it's really the path forward for privacy centric folks. The main challenges are managing workload scheduling (SystemD is complicated for a layperson). Networking is another challenge; for instance, if you wanted all or part of these services to remain offline or on a Mesh VPN there's a lot of knowledge required. There's some projects t…

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Re: Start Self Hosting

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ad404b8a372f2b9 wrote: post #67
kerblang wrote: post #39

You know what would be kind of neat? Like, a web site you'd go to called makemeoneofthose.com, and you'd click some buttons, and then sometime later you'd have a hosting setup that you own with some software, web server(s) and database(s) on it, and then you can go hack on it yourself, add some features, whatever. Like they send you some AWS keys and say "It's all yours. Good luck and don't forget to pay your hosting…

A lot of cloud providers offer this. Cloud ocean for example, you search for the application you're interested in, click lauch and you've got it deployed in a docker container on a remote machine.

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losvedir wrote: post #88
molsongolden wrote: post #76

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The digitalocean marketplace is kind of like this. Also sandstorm.io.

I was so sad when sandstorm kind of fizzled out. I'm still hoping Kenton is on a secret mission to somehow bring it to life within Cloudflare. How cool would that be? One-click installs of docs, email hosting, photo sharing, etc apps from a server app marketplace, onto a cloud server you control. (Insofar as you "control" anything on a cloud host, but I feel like that's pretty far, still.)

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