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Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by edmcnulty101 »

interestica wrote: post #111
edmcnulty101 wrote: post #89

I wonder if the COVID effect will have desensitized people to coughs so the coughgeist is way higher than usual.

How about this (/s): During a pandemic, people are hyper aware of coughing in their environment. It becomes a subconscious trigger (like a baby's cries). Every time a cough occurs in a film, it causes that same shift and elevated processing -- and has the side effect of making a viewer better pay attention/enjoy a scene.

So instead of desensitization, coughing becomes comfortable, reassuring, or perhaps even attractive due to it's being such a common part of life...hence the coughgeist may be reduced due to the appreciation of each cough.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by edmcnulty101 »

theejazz wrote: post #138
edmcnulty101 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They said they normalized the cough count, which I'm assuming means time adjusted?

> We calculate the Coughgeist for each year by determining the median expulsion count of that year’s nominees and then normalizing it. Probably adjusted for the number of nominees per year

Ah missed that. They normalize for the coughgeist not the number of movie coughs.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by blindmute »

bitcharmer wrote: post #3

Like most films directed by Dennis Villeneuve I found Dune to be a work of art and visual masterpiece. His recount of how they prepared the set and the scene for the Gom Jabar ritual just shows how commited he is and how much passion he puts into his work. Absolute delight to watch. https://youtu.be/GoAA0sYkLI0

Dune is not a good movie though, unfortunately. It's like 1/3 of a good movie. By any conception of storytelling, it doesn't constitute a story. As its own piece of media, without knowledge of the book, it doesn't stand as a coherent work. Compare it to something like Fellowship of the Ring which could be watched alone.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by magicalhippo »

theshrike79 wrote: post #140
magicalhippo wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not saying they had to go no-name though, plenty of good known actors out there who hasn't been in a bunch of blockbuster movies recently etc. But I get what you're saying. Sad, because it really detracted from the movie for me.

Mid-price movies disappeared when streaming became a thing. We either get low-budget stuff (10-20 million), mostly horror. Or movies that are huge gigantic blockbusters that MUST succeed. The mid-price stuff is gone. The ones that have enough budget to make a director's vision come true, but not so much that it brings in people from The Company suggesting their pet things to be added.

I'm sure they're out there, but it just boggles my mind that someone would decide to go watch Dune or not based on say Jason Momoa having a few minutes on screen.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by saltminer »

technobabbler wrote: post #39
bitcharmer wrote: post #3

Like most films directed by Dennis Villeneuve I found Dune to be a work of art and visual masterpiece. His recount of how they prepared the set and the scene for the Gom Jabar ritual just shows how commited he is and how much passion he puts into his work. Absolute delight to watch. https://youtu.be/GoAA0sYkLI0

It was really beautiful but the pacing was horrible for modern attention spams. I loved the movie, but only because I read way too many of the books and played all the games and watched every Dune before it. My partner had no idea what was going on and fell asleep 1/3 of the way through... even though she is normally a movie completionist. That dude had a certain style, cinematic intellectualism with beautiful cinema…

> Hard to get all of that in one movie, and the trailers made it seem more Star Wars than Blade Runner.

This is because directors usually don't have anything to do with the trailers (in fact, it's typically outsourced to companies who specialize in making them). Trailers tend to reflect what the studio execs want people to think the movie is about, which trends towards "what gets the most people to buy tickets?"

Sadly, I don't think this will ever change.

I did enjoy the movie, though. Villeneuve really did the book justice, and I cannot wait for part two.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by andrewflnr »

hef19898 wrote: post #137
andrewflnr wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Re: charging into battle, I think the focus of the question was the pug.

Ok, I take Lynch pug and raise you by a guy carrying a shield but no sidearm then. The charging into battoe after breaking formation is similar in both cases.

If you're referring to something in the Villenueve Dune, I don't remember it in enough detail to know what you're talking about. And I only know the Lynch one from snippets and memes. :) I think I agree about breaking formation. Just once I'd like to see a movie that took battle formation seriously.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by hef19898 »

andrewflnr wrote: post #146
hef19898 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, I take Lynch pug and raise you by a guy carrying a shield but no sidearm then. The charging into battoe after breaking formation is similar in both cases.

If you're referring to something in the Villenueve Dune, I don't remember it in enough detail to know what you're talking about. And I only know the Lynch one from snippets and memes. :) I think I agree about breaking formation. Just once I'd like to see a movie that took battle formation seriously.

I referred to our beloved Cpt. America. For some reason we accept all kinds of absurdities from Marvel but call out other films dor much less. It's a film, a lot of stuff is just there to look cool. Which is a pitty, because those films that do shiw things like formations properly, e.g. Alatriste, still look cool if you ask me.

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Post by Qub3d »

PennRobotics wrote: post #104
twic wrote: post #45

The best bit about this is that the authors registered that entire domain purely so the article could have a vaguely official-looking URL.

Going to a wrong URL shows the Github Pages 404. Searching Github: https://github.com/journal-doi/cough https://github.com/the-pudding/cough https://github.com/arp242/goatcounter (bonus material)

GoatCounter is great! I use it for metrics on my hobby site (which are visible publicly): https://dotbun.goatcounter.com/

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by usrbinbash »

hef19898 wrote: post #147
andrewflnr wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're referring to something in the Villenueve Dune, I don't remember it in enough detail to know what you're talking about. And I only know the Lynch one from snippets and memes. :) I think I agree about breaking formation. Just once I'd like to see a movie that took battle formation seriously.

I referred to our beloved Cpt. America. For some reason we accept all kinds of absurdities from Marvel but call out other films dor much less. It's a film, a lot of stuff is just there to look cool. Which is a pitty, because those films that do shiw things like formations properly, e.g. Alatriste, still look cool if you ask me.

For Cpt. America this makes total sense...his shield is both a weapon and a defensive device, as demonstrated throughout the movies many times.

But carrying a small dog (a pug) while charging into battle? What exactly is the point? Where is the logic? Even if its the royal dog, when the compound is overrun by the archenemy of the duke, the royal family unaccounted for, the most effective weapons sabotaged, the last thing his most capable military commanders would think of doing, is saving the royal pet. And even if that was the intention, how does carrying it into the thick of the fight achieve that?

Yes, we accept absudities in movies, if they make sense in the setting. If Cpt. Rogers were to carry a pet hamster around in his pocket for seemingly no reason, while fighting Hydra, it bet the acceptance of this would be kinda low, Marvel or no.

Re: Predicting Best Picture winners using coughs and sneezes

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Post by cfcosta »

enkid wrote: post #88
hhmc wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't want to leave the joke unexplained now, would we

As a non-German speaker I found the joke about the joke informative and humorous.

Same, I then went back to the original comment and thought "damn, that's a clever joke".
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