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Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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I've seen a deep fake with Putin "surrendering" on 28th of February: https://youtu.be/ZbudZw1LlHg I guess the video itself was made even earlier than that. The video is not excellent, but the audio is pretty spot on, if you ask me. Edit: re-worded the first sentence.

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Hmmm. How did you “find” this?

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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People calling it looks fake are not exactly the targeted audience. My mom and dad have been countless times fooled by whatsapp forwarded videos which obviously looks fake to me but not to them. I have to explain them to look for certain clues to identify anything fake but I have been fooled countless times by videos looking legit. Captain disillusion does a good job in debunking real looking viral videos.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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> Zelensky is a nazi, He's not a Nazi, of course, him being of Jewish ancestry, but it did raise some questions for me when a Russian bomb (that killed about 20 civilians) did its thing in Kyiv very close to a boulevard named after Bandera. Bandera is of course a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator. That thing with a Kyiv boulevard being named after a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator you don't see in the MSM. Th…

What questions did it raise for you?

Oh, you know, "where there's smoke there's fire" and "many people are saying" and "look into it, is all I'm saying" and "whether it's true or not, it just raises questions."

That's the way these things usually work. A slow erosion of public opinion through insinuation. People like Tucker Carlson aren't going to instantly go back to brown-nosing Putin, but they'll slip in occasional questions about Zelensky here and there, until certain insinuations are taken as ground truth.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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I always find it interesting to watch the trickle down of news I find here on HN. I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the US. It always goes the same; see fake thing called out for being fake on HN. One week later, hear rumblings related to the fake thing in my community. One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it. Su…

> Zelensky is a nazi, He's not a Nazi, of course, him being of Jewish ancestry, but it did raise some questions for me when a Russian bomb (that killed about 20 civilians) did its thing in Kyiv very close to a boulevard named after Bandera. Bandera is of course a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator. That thing with a Kyiv boulevard being named after a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator you don't see in the MSM. Th…

So of course those civilians deserved to die, because they happened to be on a street named after someone or other?

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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After the Gulf of Tonkin [0] and Nayirah Testimony [1], is it really surprising that people don't believe the mainstream media on war anymore? [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

What do either of these incidents have to do with trust in the media? Both incidents were fabrications of the government. In both cases the media was a tool used by government to spread the lies.

> One week after that, hear people openly talking about how that fake thing is true, but Google/MSM don't want you to hear about it.

There is an implication by the OP that people in very conservative parts of the state don't believe Google / MSM and point to deep fakes instead. In the past, they would've been more receptive to the MSM who could've debunked this. I posted these two incidents to show that the MSM did, in fact, lie in the past and this may be shaping why people don't believe them now but instead go online looking for "the truth."

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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I live in a very, very, very conservative part of the country and it’s nothing like the caricature you just mentioned. It is, though, safe, polite, and friendly. And people are happy to leave other people alone.

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No, I'm posting from my 3 bedroom ranch that I built, on 62 acres in flyover country.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Zelensky is a nazi, He's not a Nazi, of course, him being of Jewish ancestry, but it did raise some questions for me when a Russian bomb (that killed about 20 civilians) did its thing in Kyiv very close to a boulevard named after Bandera. Bandera is of course a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator. That thing with a Kyiv boulevard being named after a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator you don't see in the MSM. Th…

Here in the US we have street names and even monuments dedicated to slave owners and people who advocated so strongly for slavery they went to war with their own people. Does that mean the US, today, generally supports the institution of chattel slavery? No, that's absurd. Lots of people want those monuments removed and streets renamed, but that's apparently cancel culture. The only country I know of that has actuall…

But @paganel apparently thinks it’s totally okay to bomb that street while civilians are walking on it. Talk about priorities.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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That's true for now, but eventually, as the technology progresses, it will take very little training data to create deepfakes of anyone unfortunately. Probably just a minute or two of video.

Is this true? I don't see much evidence that the technology is progressing in a direction where models will require less training data, if anything the trend seems to be towards models with higher and higher parameter counts.

Higher parameter count and less face samples aren't mutually exclusive.

You can take a huge GAN and then use a single image of a face as a guide for navigating the latent space.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

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Now if the head didnt oscillate sideways like it wasnt connected to the neck and perhaps they used a grainy pixelated recording, they might have got away with the visuals. Cant comment on the voice recording, but so far most deepfake software isnt that good because its not aware of other variables. Good laugh though, still the existence of sky fairies like god, ie something that cant be proved is still order of the d…

Sure, it's not perfect. But you also knew it was a fake before seeing it, right?

Maybe I should be, but I'm generally not looking for inconsistencies like that in everything I watch.

Re: Zelensky video deepfake

#150

In Swedish telephone directories there used to be a section entitled "Om kriget kommer" (If there's war). Prominent among it was the phrase: > Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt. (Every message stating that resistance has ceased is false). No doubt something similar is stated in Ukraine. https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteassets/5-information-och-f...

I'm Swedish and I've always loved this phrase. It's short and concise, and it stirs something inside you even if you're mostly devoid of nationalistic tendencies.

The continuation of the phrase mentioned later in the same pamphlet is also nice:

SV: Motstånd skall göras ständigt och i alla lägen.

EN: Resistance shall be made constantly and in all situations.

It also mentions the classic "En svensk tiger" (lit. "A Swede stays silent") illustrated by a tiger in the Swedish colors since the word has double meaning in Swedish.

Minor nitpick, the correct translation isn't "resistance has ceased" but "resistance shall cease".

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