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Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by jimrandomh »

coconut08 wrote: post #132
jimrandomh wrote: post #110

It's kind of ridiculous how slow the progress in screen resolutions has been. It's disappointing that Apple is only going for 5k, not 8k; they're well positioned to fix the ecosystem and bring high-resolution large displays to everyone, if only they tried. I'm finally sitting in front of an 8k 65" screen. This gives me a nice combination of decent picel density in the center and lots of peripheral vision in which to…

maybe i'm just old and blind but i can BARELY even notice the difference between 1440p and 4k if i very explicitly and intentionally look for it let alone the difference between 5k and 8k. this seems like so beyond unnecessary that it's absurd. i might be able to be convinced that you could notice on your 8k 65 inch tv if you were standing right in front of it, but on a 27 inch display that seems incredibly unlikely…

I sit 2ft from the 8k screen; it fills much more of my peripheral vision than most people's monitors do, and I position most things in the middle and never full-screen anything. Think of it like a multimonitor setup without the seams between monitors.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by sprite »

ericmay wrote: post #123
bin_bash wrote: post #113

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Presumably with a much worse webcam and speakers. It's also ugly black plastic compared to the aluminum construction of the Apple display.

No webcam or microphone in the LG displays. Well the 4k at least. I assume the 5k is the same. It does have speakers. They're ok for the price point but not notable. It's also basically unsupported as far as software is concerned. You can't connect an iPad to it for example. Or at least I can't anymore. Sound would play but not screen mirroring.

I have the 5K LG monitors, they have camera and mic.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by owenwil »

fotta wrote: post #117
owenwil wrote: post #90

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There's a good reason for this: Thunderbolt 4 doesn't have enough port bandwidth. TB4 can carry a max of 30Gbps but 5K @ 120hz is 32Gbps. There's no way Apple would do two cables for this, and the next gen of Thunderbolt is a while off, so the choice makes sense.

I think your math is off a bit. TB3/4 carries 40Gbps and 5k@120 is 53Gbps (5120 * 2880 * 120hz * 30bits/pixel). But your point still stands :)

Whoops - you're right!

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by stanmancan »

jimrandomh wrote: post #110

It's kind of ridiculous how slow the progress in screen resolutions has been. It's disappointing that Apple is only going for 5k, not 8k; they're well positioned to fix the ecosystem and bring high-resolution large displays to everyone, if only they tried. I'm finally sitting in front of an 8k 65" screen. This gives me a nice combination of decent picel density in the center and lots of peripheral vision in which to…

Driving an 8K monitor can be a bit hard on some computers, no? And chaining multiple 8K monitors is an even bigger challenge.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by ballenf »

dagmx wrote: post #69
alexashka wrote: post #46

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in 2014, you could buy a 27" 5k iMac for 2000$. Now you can buy the exact same monitor, for 1600$. We've made a lot of progress.

That's $2300 in todays dollars if it helps the cost comparison

And $2500 in next month's.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by astrange »

adrianmsmith wrote: post #28

Would be nice to have >5K resolutions to have more pixel density. Alas, macOS doesn't support any native scaling other than 100% and 200%. So if they did release e.g. a 27" 8K monitor, the text would either be too small, or they'd have to use bitmap scaling to make it bigger in which case there'd be no advantage of having an 8K monitor. (EDIT: To clarify, all other scaling factors are done by rendering at either 100%…

Your suggestion was tried for years and failed every time because it doesn’t work. HiDPI shipped because it was 2x or nothing. (Later there was 3x.)

The reason Windows developers still think it might work is they have no taste and don’t care about localized UI, pixel cracks, or blurry bitmap controls.

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by adam_arthur »

jimrandomh wrote: post #110

It's kind of ridiculous how slow the progress in screen resolutions has been. It's disappointing that Apple is only going for 5k, not 8k; they're well positioned to fix the ecosystem and bring high-resolution large displays to everyone, if only they tried. I'm finally sitting in front of an 8k 65" screen. This gives me a nice combination of decent picel density in the center and lots of peripheral vision in which to…

I'm more annoyed by slow progress in refresh rates. Resolutions have progressed pretty nicely IMO, but the top end monitors from Dell, Apple etc still all running at 60hz.

Also feel like 27 inches is pretty small these days, for high productivity type of work. Wish Apple went for a 34 inch

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by newaccount74 »

techpression wrote: post #115

For all the work Apple is doing to improve their environmental impact (which I applaud) I'm completely flabbergasted as to why this is a single device monitor. It's quite the impact on the environment to require users who have a Mac mini/Studio and a MacBook Pro to buy two monitors (no matter how great the production chain is). Sure, you can plug/unplug the cable, but that works so-so on a Studio with the ports on th…

Doesn't the Mac Studio have a Thunderbolt 4 port on the front?

Re: Apple announces 27-inch 5K Studio Display

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Post by mark-r »

iamricks wrote: post #40
mholm wrote: post #11

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Looks like 60hz. I don't think anybody has 5k/120hz working yet.

Yup, i feel like nobody cares about monitor tech, i waited for 4k/120hz IPS for a long time

It's not that nobody cares, it's just that this stuff is genuinely hard. We're too spoiled.
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