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Re: No user accounts, by design

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Post by trs-80 »

lucb1e wrote: post #62
13415 wrote: post #54

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Mullvad allows Bitcoin purchases of tokens, which can then be used as a serial for the VPN that works for the time period you've purchased. Users can change tokens any time. That's probably close to what you're already doing.

Or for those less blockchain-inclined, you can just send them cash as well... https://mullvad.net/en/pricing/ ctrl+f cash (the section has no anchor)

Yep, came here to say this.

It doesn't get any more anonymous than cash in the mail. :)

Re: No user accounts, by design

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Post by eighthave »

bduerst wrote: post #136
krageon wrote: post #112

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Your argument boils down to "I came up with one scenario where this is bad, so it can't work at all" and I find this dissatisfying. If this hypothetical student "shared" their user account and then disavowed giving it out, you would have the same issues.

My original question is: >How do you solve problems arising from bad actors without an object representing the user? In response to the argument that user objects are no longer needed, even for something like virtual meetings. The scenario of zoombombing isn't something "I came up with", it's a real life scenario that having a user object helps prevent bad actors with. In the event of a user sharing their account, yo…

Jitsi lets you set room passwords, and it is also very easy to create a new Jitsi room, so you can easily send a new URL around as needed.

Re: No user accounts, by design

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Post by bduerst »

eighthave wrote: post #143
bduerst wrote: post #136

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My original question is: >How do you solve problems arising from bad actors without an object representing the user? In response to the argument that user objects are no longer needed, even for something like virtual meetings. The scenario of zoombombing isn't something "I came up with", it's a real life scenario that having a user object helps prevent bad actors with. In the event of a user sharing their account, yo…

Jitsi lets you set room passwords, and it is also very easy to create a new Jitsi room, so you can easily send a new URL around as needed.

>Sure, but then the student who shares their interactive class URL (w/ or w/o password) on 4chan still isn't accounted for.

Emphasis added. You could create user-specific passwords, but that would require... users.

Re: No user accounts, by design

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Post by bduerst »

f1refly wrote: post #139
bduerst wrote: post #137

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The individual share links would be linked to what exactly? A non-user object with the student's name and email address?

You can just make your own list. Generate 20 links, paste them somewhere, have your list of students next to it. Delete the list if nothing happened, check which number offended if it went wrong. If you can trust the platform, in cases where the school hosts the program itself, the names can be added to the links directly. You don't need a big db of students for this, just an ephemeral list of strings.

So you're creating user records every meeting in a spreadsheet to get around having user records?

Re: No user accounts, by design

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Post by hedora »

bduerst wrote: post #145
f1refly wrote: post #139

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You can just make your own list. Generate 20 links, paste them somewhere, have your list of students next to it. Delete the list if nothing happened, check which number offended if it went wrong. If you can trust the platform, in cases where the school hosts the program itself, the names can be added to the links directly. You don't need a big db of students for this, just an ephemeral list of strings.

So you're creating user records every meeting in a spreadsheet to get around having user records?

If you use email or a chat platform that has some sort of history, this rapidly reduces to sending a separate link to each person. No spreadsheet needed.

Yes, it is a pain. No, it's not more of a pain than managing user accounts for the video conference thingy. Also, the video conference thing could automate emailing/texting each participant a unique link. It could manage the invites and address books locally (e.g., via the phone's existing contact list).

If something like the windows phone social hub still existed, it could even send the links via gateways to any social network the phone was logged into. I miss that phone. So much wasted potential.

Re: No user accounts, by design

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Post by andai »

lsferreira42 wrote: post #70
andai wrote: post #56

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>I look over and install Windows updates once a way-too-long I thought you needed some kind of registry hacks or something to disable automatic updates since W10, can you elaborate on how you got it to stop pestering you?

I followed this website and it works: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-stop-updates-installing-a...

Brilliant, thank you!
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