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Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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You can use a Yubikey for 2fa with 1Password

Ok, I assume that's with FIDO/U2F, so that's not so bad. At that point though, you already have a hardware token capable of holding SSH keys, so I'm still not convinced of the benefit.

The benefit is an extra layer of indirection.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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A huge problematic deficiency of 1Password is that it lacks literal multi-line text field types. The items in its database let you define custom fields for them, but there is no literal multi line text field. There's a "File" type, but you can't simply define fields with multi-line text values. However, every item has exactly one built-in "notes" field, but that's actually styled markdown text. And you only get one.…

I believe you can attach files, so that might be an option for keys/certs.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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post #66

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Genuinely curious, where do you store your passwords and sensitive info like SSH keys? I hear a lot of "cloud password managers are bad!" but I rarely see someone follow up with a better approach. Even better to them. I've been using a password manager for years and I've always thought I was making a good decision but then I see all these comments and I wonder if I'm missing something.

I use KeyPassXC for almost all of my secret storage needs.

Do you have family or friends with whom you share passwords? 1pass excels in that situation.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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post #99

I'd rather use Secretive ( https://github.com/maxgoedjen/secretive ), to be honest. I've stopped using 1Password everywhere I can due to their product "focus", and am working my way through a set of alternatives (currently using Secrets on the Mac and looking at the KeePass ecosystem, which keeps improving monthly): https://taoofmac.com/space/apps/1password Edit: It's been fun watching this get upvoted and downvoted…

> I've stopped using 1Password everywhere I can due to their product "focus",

What do you mean by this?

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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post #17

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I don't get the hate on Electron. Is it often bloated? Yes, sure. Has it allowed some of these excellent third party apps to make the move to Linux? Absolutely. I've been utterly surprised and excited by how much better 1Password has gotten over the last two years on Linux. We're seeing real parity with the OSX side of the house. Would I love native apps? Again, sure. But I really don't care. It runs pretty fast on m…

Memory is a precious resource. Every additional Electron app that’s running increases the likelihood that your system will have to swap, and then it will feel like a a turtle in a tarpit. Also, there’s some concern that continuous swapping prematurely ages SSDs, reducing the overall lifetime of laptops. The modern trend is to solder storage chips directly to the main board, making them difficult to replace.

> Also, there’s some concern that continuous swapping prematurely ages SSDs, reducing the overall lifetime of laptops. The modern trend is to solder storage chips directly to the main board, making them difficult to replace.

You have to thrash a full drive QUITE hard to cause any significant wear, all modern drives take care of themselves and the filesystems report which blocks are unused to let the SSD take care of itself.

Surely it's a concern in a server environment and some other "spacebar heating" workflow but in reality it doesn't happen.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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post #119
post #28

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I think a lot of the hate (myself included) is coming from the fact that we already had a really good native macOS app. Feels like something is being taken away. I do understand where you are coming from with Linux. It's better than what you had, no doubt. But that doesn't feel like the case to us macOS users.

What features/usability/performance was lost with the switch to the Electron app? If the answer is "nothing," then really the argument is purely about aesthetics. I didn't even know it was an Electron app until months after I had installed it.

From my own experience with Electron apps and 1Password beta a few months ago, putting resource usage aside (even if we should not): OS-native spell checking is missing. Lack of OS standard shortcuts. Everything is a single window. UX performance: lots of things has just a little bit longer.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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A huge problematic deficiency of 1Password is that it lacks literal multi-line text field types. The items in its database let you define custom fields for them, but there is no literal multi line text field. There's a "File" type, but you can't simply define fields with multi-line text values. However, every item has exactly one built-in "notes" field, but that's actually styled markdown text. And you only get one.…

I believe you can attach files, so that might be an option for keys/certs.

Have you tried actually using that in practice? It's extremely clumsy and inconvenient, requiring a whole lot more pointing and clicking and waiting and typing to attach the file, look at its contents, copy its value, or even edit it, than a simple multi-line text field would require.

And in the common case that the text is only on my clipboard, for example if I copied it from a web page or shell, then I have to go to all the effort of first saving it locally into a file somewhere in the file system, before laboriously navigating to it again with 1Password (often having to wait for my USB hard drives to spin up again as my Mac is frozen for 50 seconds showing the file dialog that scans all the attached storage devices) and finally adding it as a file attachment.

And then after all that extra busy work, the plaintext secret file now is floating around unencrypted in my file system somewhere, which is exactly what I didn't need.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Not really into replacing vetted, well tested open source software with a proprietary app with cloud storage.

I have pretty high confidence in 1password's security, because it's a very attractive target for both security researchers and malicious actors. I just hope they have a decent and fair bug bounty program.

They also hire firms for regular security assessments (I did one of them) and publish the reports: https://support.1password.com/security-assessments/

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuinely curious, where do you store your passwords and sensitive info like SSH keys? I hear a lot of "cloud password managers are bad!" but I rarely see someone follow up with a better approach. Even better to them. I've been using a password manager for years and I've always thought I was making a good decision but then I see all these comments and I wonder if I'm missing something.

I use KeyPassXC for almost all of my secret storage needs.

That's still a password manager. GP was asking what alternatives to the entire class of applications exist that provide equivalent security for unique passwords and keys

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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A huge problematic deficiency of 1Password is that it lacks literal multi-line text field types. The items in its database let you define custom fields for them, but there is no literal multi line text field. There's a "File" type, but you can't simply define fields with multi-line text values. However, every item has exactly one built-in "notes" field, but that's actually styled markdown text. And you only get one.…

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