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John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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For any americans here: With the right recipe, are your pancakes edible without simply using them as sponges for high fructose corn syrup? I'm thinking of the ones with baking powder, that I consider "american pancakes" (but correct me if that's not right).

I'll take the snide comment at face value. Yes. Besides, you should hear what the American upper middle class thinks of your country's cuisine, wherever you're from, unless it happens to be trendy this week. I'm not a big fan of pancakes from mix either.

America's Test Kitchen had a recipe for blueberry pancakes a number of years ago that I thought was pretty good. You can omit the blueberries of course if you want.

If you're an adult, you don't eat pancakes all the time (you probably shouldn't), you don't pour a sea of syrup onto your pancakes, and you aren't watching every penny, you owe it to yourself to buy real maple syrup. Real butter, too, for that matter.

That said, the corn syrup used as a base for cheap pancake syrup is regular corn syrup, not high fructose, though they are frequently today, not always, sweetened with HFCS. The brand I liked as a kid, Log cabin, has no HFCS. I just looked it up. Back in the wayback machine, old-timers would eat pancakes with Karo syrup, which is plain corn syrup sometimes with vanilla flavoring or molasses added. Some parts of the country, people would eat molasses on pancakes. Probably still do. These habits predate the invention of HFCS, let alone its use in food.

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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You can subst orange blossom water for Cointreau or Grand Marnier. In fact try adding these into regular crepe, pancake or French toast batter. A tablespoon or so adds an absolutely wonderful nuance to the result.

Yes. Whipped cream too. Orange liqueur is a nice twist anywhere you might use vanilla.

Also, for a dryer, more grown-up flavor, try a spoonful of good cognac instead of vanilla.

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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I didn't find it particularly bad for readability. Then again, I'm used to ISO dates (2022-01-30).

It's the leading zero that throws me off and makes me look for a day-of-month or month number in a string that is too short to have one and a leading zero. ISO 8601 dates are fine.

ISO 8601 dates are perfect! It's too bad they're not more popular.

I tried to push for them in labels used in a manufacturing plant with locations both in the U.S. and Ireland. Seems like a slam dunk because it eliminates the confusion about whether the month or day comes first. In the end I had to compromise on the month specified by abbreviation rather than number: 2022-Jan-30.

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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They remind me of “Swedish Pancakes” which are kind of in-between an American pancake and a crepe. No idea if they are actually Swedish but you can buy Lund’s Swedish pancake mix in the US and you get something similar

I'm Swedish, and I can confirm that all my Swedish cookbooks contain recipes for "pancakes", "crepes" and "American pancakes", which are definitely 3 different things, and a Swedish "pancake" is a lot like you describe it. I also have a recipe for what my cookbook calls Danish pancakes, or "æbleskiver" in Danish. Those are more like small round doughnuts prepared in a special frying pan. I'm not sure if the Danish wo…

I have an æbleskiver cast iron pan. Only used it a couple of times, seems like a lot of trouble for what you get.

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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For any americans here: With the right recipe, are your pancakes edible without simply using them as sponges for high fructose corn syrup? I'm thinking of the ones with baking powder, that I consider "american pancakes" (but correct me if that's not right).

When I make a batch of pancakes, I always make the first one about 1/3 size as a test to make sure I have the heat correct. Then I eat it straight, no toppings. The rest get syrup.

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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You can subst orange blossom water for Cointreau or Grand Marnier. In fact try adding these into regular crepe, pancake or French toast batter. A tablespoon or so adds an absolutely wonderful nuance to the result.

Yes. Whipped cream too. Orange liqueur is a nice twist anywhere you might use vanilla. Also, for a dryer, more grown-up flavor, try a spoonful of good cognac instead of vanilla.

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Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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He wrote it before 01694. Most of the English settlers who would define the American dialect of English hadn't moved to America yet in 01694, so there is no particular reason to expect Locke's definition to be more similar to the modern English definition than to the modern American definition. (And Nicosia claims that the result was in fact in between, even though she didn't beat it for the full 15 minutes.)

Curious: Why do you write it 01694 and not 1694?

Probably too much nutmeg in my diet.

(No, it's a silly Long Now thing.)

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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I love pancakes, crepes, etc. If you have a ripe banana available, I'm a fan of this 4-ingredient banana/oats pancake recipe. Blend the following: Ripe banana. 2 Eggs. 1/3 cup instant oats. 1/2 teaspoon baking powder. Low heat. Cooke 3 minutes. Flip. Cook one minute. That's it. Here's what mine looked like https://xenodium.com/banana-oats-pancakes-recipe

Nice. I'll try this, thanks. Until then, I'm curious about how much the oats cook thru. As a lover of oatmeal cookies, I prefer the oats to be less detente. Do you let your batter sit for a while, to give the oats time to pre-soften? I've experimented with "oat milk" as a smoothie base (in lieu of yoghurt). I've read that honey and banana have some enzyme that breaks down the oats. So I toss in one (or both), frappé…

> Until then, I'm curious about how much the oats cook thru.

https://www.mornflake.com/product/superfast-oats/

> As a lover of oatmeal cookies

Funny you mention https://xenodium.com/oatmeal-cookie-recipe

> I prefer the oats to be less detente. Do you let your batter sit for a while, to give the oats time to pre-soften?

No need. You should be ok soon after blending. I use porridge oats if that makes a difference https://www.mornflake.com/product/superfast-oats

> So I toss in one (or both), frappé the oats, then let it sit for at least 1/2 hour.

Sounds like you may like "overnight oats", if you haven't tried them.

> Any way. Thanks again.

It's important to use lower heat and cook longer than typical pancakes (to avoid breakin them when flipping). Took me a few tries. Good luck!

Re: John Locke’s recipe for Pancakes (2021)

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Nice. I'll try this, thanks. Until then, I'm curious about how much the oats cook thru. As a lover of oatmeal cookies, I prefer the oats to be less detente. Do you let your batter sit for a while, to give the oats time to pre-soften? I've experimented with "oat milk" as a smoothie base (in lieu of yoghurt). I've read that honey and banana have some enzyme that breaks down the oats. So I toss in one (or both), frappé…

I'm guessing the use of instant oats instead of regular helps them soften faster. I was surprised by how smooth they looked in the photo! That oat milk sounds good, I'll have to give it a try :)

> I'm guessing the use of instant oats instead of regular helps them soften faster.

Yep. https://www.mornflake.com/product/superfast-oats works well for me.

> I was surprised by how smooth they looked in the photo!

Took me a few tries to get there. As mentioned in other reply, lower heat and longer than typical pancake cooking time is important to avoid breaking while flipping.

Having more than one pan going also key since they're slower to cook.

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