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Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

fartcannon wrote: post #139
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #131

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If you consider Foxconn slave labor, maybe. Except Foxconn wages are generally considered to be good for the area (thus why so many employees do it seasonally for a few months during the ramp-up each year). It's a better factory than many. Yes, the netting to prevent suicides looks really bad... until you consider Foxconn employs 1.2 million people. Their suicide rate once that is considered is lower than the general…

Yes blame Apple as they have the most money and thus the most responsibility to do better. 3 trillion dollars is worth how many human lives?

Market cap is not money they can just spend within factories they don't own.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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gjsman-1000 wrote: post #124
peregren wrote: post #119

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Does your hope have any foundation in reality?

Absolutely. Rumors that have been correct so far (and correctly predicted the M1 Pro and M1 Max 16 and 32 GPU core configurations) say that Apple is planning a 2 and 4 M1 Max multi-die design in the future. The M1 Max already has a die-to-die interconnect bus that is unused. Also, according to reverse engineer Hector Martin, the interrupt controller on the M1 Max theoretically allows for up to 8 M1 Max dies (though w…

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Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by GeekyBear »

peregren wrote: post #119
olliej wrote: post #117

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I'm hoping for a pro desktop with something more advanced than the current M1s - e.g not just an M1 with more cores. I want a Nvidia/amd class gpu, etc.

Does your hope have any foundation in reality?

The same guy who called the chips in the recent two MacBook Pro models made a prediction for the Mac Pro at the same time.

>Gurman claims that Apple has developed two SoCs for the new Mac Pro, codenamed 'Jade 2C-Die' and 'Jade 4C-Die'. These SoCs would have 20 or 40 CPUs cores, which would be significantly more than anything Apple has planned for its MacBook range. Both have performance and power-saving clusters though, split 16/4 and 32/6. Gurman also expects 'Jade 2C-Die' and 'Jade 4C-Die' to feature 64 or 128 GPU cores, a huge uplift on the GPUs found in the current Mac Pro.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-is-reputedly-developing-...

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by smoldesu »

cassianoleal wrote: post #122
teitoklien wrote: post #66

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> you never blame yourself for buying Apple I do, latest macs have terrible linux compatibility for now, with apple not doing much to help in providing support for it (M1) They keep fixing and breaking their keyboards, the latest macs are better in this aspect but until even 2 yrs ago, they used to break quite frequently Apple making it so hard to develop ios apps on a non apple device, definitely brings additional p…

> apple not doing much to help in providing support for it (M1) marcan (lead dev of Asahi Linux) seems to disagree: Looks like Apple changed the requirements for Mach-O kernel files in 12.1, breaking our existing installation process... and they *also* added a raw image mode that will never break again and doesn't require Mach-Os. And people said they wouldn't help. This is intended for us. https://twitter.com/marcan…

It's funny how people come out to celebrate in droves when Apple does the bare minimum to not break their own tooling. Another equally likely scenario is that their changes broke internal tooling, and so they added the raw image mode to give Mac engineers a more reliable entry point for prototyping and testing on the new devices.

Regardless, when my mail carrier changes their route to get to my house 30 minutes faster I don't take it as some sort of sign that the UPS cares about me more than the others. It seems more likely to me that Apple saw the logistical value in not breaking their own kernel requirements with every release, and that happens to be serendipitous with the greater development community as a whole. If Apple wanted to help the Linux community, we would know because they'd be releasing UNIX kernel blobs so people wouldn't be forced to spend years re-writing code that already exists. But of course, that's not how their industry works. If Torvalds gave Nvidia just one middle finger for their treatment of Linux, it's hard to imagine how many he'd like to give Apple these days.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by KKKKkkkk1 »

thewarrior wrote: post #32
bigtones wrote: post #25

Their huge China derived revenue is an increasing problem for Apple from a company stance perspective. They have to increasingly walk a tightrope between servicing that market, kowtowing to the Chinese government, and upholding the values of a California based US Company.

This is the case for all companies in the world eventually. China will overtake the US economy in the next 5 years.

Paul Samuelson the Nobel Memorial Prize laureate repeatedly predicted the USSR economy will overtake the US within X years. Predictions are hard!

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by zepto »

cassianoleal wrote: post #116
zepto wrote: post #99

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Why didn’t you include the next paragraph? You seem to be ignoring 130 years of law that happened since what you are quoting. Courts quickly began struggling with the Sherman Act's broad and vague language, recognizing that interpreting it literally might make even simple business entities like partnerships illegal.[9] Federal judges began trying to develop legal principles for distinguishing between "naked" trade re…

Because, again, IANAL, and I don't really understand what that means. If the law is vague, so is this paragraph, at least to my unknowlegeable self. I am also not from the USA and have very little experience or awareness of their laws. I assure you there was no malice.

That paragraph means that the law is not interpreted the way you are reading it.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by opportune »

KKKKkkkk1 wrote: post #145
thewarrior wrote: post #32

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This is the case for all companies in the world eventually. China will overtake the US economy in the next 5 years.

Paul Samuelson the Nobel Memorial Prize laureate repeatedly predicted the USSR economy will overtake the US within X years. Predictions are hard!

The USSR was closeish to the US population. China has 4x the US population. That roughly means they only need to reach 1/4 the living standards of the US to have a larger economy. Seems pretty doable.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by smoldesu »

mdoms wrote: post #123
klelatti wrote: post #48

Apple is the ‘Personal IBM’: a premium systems integrator where ‘you never blame yourself for buying Apple’ in the era when everyone has a handheld computer. Edit - just to add that IBM dominated computing for a long time with this model. Perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised that Apple has become so big in what is a much bigger market.

> you never blame yourself for buying Apple How quickly we forget that Apple just had 2 generations of complete dogshit laptops.

It was more than that, pretty much everything between late 2014 and late 2018 is just... not really usable as a daily driver. Luckily they fixed the keyboard and quit stringing Intel along under the pretense that they could "make things work" by modifying ACPI tables, but I don't think I'll ever be truly comfortable using a Mac until I can drop one at waist-height and not be down $2000. Different strokes for different folks though, of course.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by zepto »

dijit wrote: post #86
zepto wrote: post #31

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Objectivity, monopoly is not a bad thing. Even the law doesn’t consider monopoly a problem in itself, Abuse of monopoly is a problem.

Monopoly can be unintentionally abused, simple things like not providing a compiler in the box or trying to add security can be seen to crush competition (like in secureboot, and the current apple App Store distribution issues) It also goes without saying that the law trails ethics and morality; not the inverse.

> simple things like not providing a compiler in the box or trying to add security can be seen to crush competition

Neither of these things crush competition in any way.

Security is not illegal, nor is anyone compelled by law to write compilers.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by JimDabell »

mojuba wrote: post #74
jdkjs wrote: post #41

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Tell Google to make Android better.

That would require them to dump JavaVM and rewrite everything except the kernel (and whatever parts are theirs but are not on JavaVM). And invent a new static programming language that is not GC-based and is not Go. Also please, that should probably be done by a company that is not Google.

Android has never used the JVM. Early versions of Android used Dalvik and later ones use ART.
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