What is causing high suicide rates in students? Is it the immense pressure to get perfect test results so they can be seen as successful by their overbearing parents who will label them as failures if they do not rank at the top of their class?
To reduce student suicides by hanging to fans, institute in India removes fans
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Means restriction is an effective way of preventing a lot of things. To the point we have phrases like "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". Food for thought.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. You seem to be hinting at something, rather than being direct, but it's not clear what you're hinting at.
It's trivial to take the direct approach of "Let's just treat the symptom."
Symptoms are caused by underlying disease. If you have people killing themselves in excessive numbers, one should not look at the means they employed as the problem. Doing so, is having a hammer, therefore the nail (removal of the offending thing, in this case the instrument of suicide.)
Treat. The. Disease. Why are they suicidal?
Overly high standards/expectation? High stress? Corrupt systems? Social stigma? Failure to teach/communicate/cross cultural divides? Miscalibrated assessment methodologies? Lack of opportunity or alternatives in the face of failure? Physical stressors? Bad nutrition, poor food, unsafe environment?
To stop at "just get rid of offensive thing" in this particular case is to indulge in willful ignorance of the root cause of suicidal ideation; the final conclusive cessation of suffering. What is causing them to suffer?
Relieve that. Engage in 2nd and higher order thinking.
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#143I wish the article had dwelled into IISc a bit more. It is one of the most sought after research institutions in India. Those who enter it are primarily motivated by an opportunity to advance their field. Though I haven't studied there I have interacted with those who have and have been to the campus on quite a few occasions. IISc is very different from IITs other much talked about institution. While latter is full o…
Some students use drugs to enhance their performance. I expect that top schools have a lot more performance drug users than other schools. Many people using performance drugs do not rest enough, exercise, or manage stress. They eventually develop health problems like depression.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is all assuming that all will remain suffering. How likely is that? It seems much more likely that some may look on this dark period in their life and be grateful they didn't go through with a suicide.
Surely that would depend greatly on the cause of the suicidal thoughts.
I've been severely depressed and borderline suicidal twice. The second time was worse than the first. Baking a single potato was the first sign I was pulling out of it. I could barely walk. It was bad. I prayed a lot, and I'm usually the pithy type with prayer.
The only reason I consider it borderline suicidal is that I had an internal rule to call 911 the first moment I started making plans and I think that kept my mind away from doing that because I didn't want to get checked into a mental hospital.
I cannot express to you just how happy I am to have held on. I am truly joyous again. It seemed impossible during the dark times.
I can't speak for everyone, I believe in free will to some extent, but I also believe that life is precious and sacred. Sometimes all someone needs to do is to just keep holding on and pushing through and that really easy to jump off of bridge that they have to walk by every day is not helping one bit.
Anyway, if anyone is reading this and is struggling like I have, please feel free to email me if you want advice or even if you just want someone to vent to.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. You seem to be hinting at something, rather than being direct, but it's not clear what you're hinting at.
It's trivial to take the direct approach of "Let's just treat the symptom." Symptoms are caused by underlying disease. If you have people killing themselves in excessive numbers, one should not look at the means they employed as the problem. Doing so, is having a hammer, therefore the nail (removal of the offending thing, in this case the instrument of suicide.) Treat. The. Disease. Why are they suicidal? Overly high…
> To stop at
Who said anything about stopping? Building a better, healthier society is a massive undertaking, and people are engaged in doing that.
In the meantime, we're also making the world a bit safer.
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#146So the Indian Institute of Sciences hasn't got the memorandum on psychological counselling yet?
I’ve been told by several Indian colleagues that mental health services in India are taboo, and generally reserved for the high dysfunctional who cannot be an active part in society (think very schizophrenic, for example). Is that accurate or old information?
The awareness is growing now, especially in the internet generation. A lot of people in rural areas are quite out of touch with basic healthcare, let alone mental healthcare. India is too big to generalise: from Instagram influencers to beggars (watching whom will break your heart), there's a whole everything.