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Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by joegreen » Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 10:42 AM UTC

v64 wrote: post #8

cyberferret wrote: post #7

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Re: Your point (1), I read somewhere that the match took longer than watching the entire "Queen's Gambit" NetFlix series start to finish. (To put it in perspective for readers who may not realise how much time is spent at the board during these sorts of games).

Thanks for pointing this out! Game 6 started at 4:30pm local time and ended at 12:17am, making the game length 7 hours and 47 minutes total. It was the first time since adjournments were abolished in the 90s that a championship game started on one day and ended on another.

Is there a time limit for each player?

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by alisonkisk » Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 2:54 PM UTC

v64 wrote: post #5

throwaway81523 wrote: post #3

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There was Fischer-Spassky, 12.5 to 8.5 in 1972, where one of Spassky's 8.5 points came from Fischer forfeiting a game by not showing up.

Although Fischer achieved the same 4 point margin, Spassky had 3 victories (including the forfeit) in that match, whereas both Lasker and Nepomniachtchi had none.

The doesn't mean much, just that Fischer-Spassky were less careful.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by alisonkisk » Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 2:57 PM UTC

innocenat wrote: post #104

spindle wrote: post #63

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Go / baduk / weiqi is also amazing from the point of view of how much stamina the players have to have. See, for example, https://senseis.xmp.net/?LongestTimeSpentThinkingAboutAMove

I was looking at Go vs Shogi time control and was surprised that at top level Shogi match usually give more time to players, despite being mathematically less complex. AFAIK the longest allotted time in Go is Japanese Mejin match at 8 hour/player. Longest for Shogi is Shogi Mejiin Match at 9 hour/player. Even standard ranking match in Japanese Shogi allow 6 hour/player, more than any Chess tournament I have seen (at…

> Even standard ranking match in Japanese Shogi allow 6 hour/player,

Is that in one day?

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by austhrow743 » Mon, Dec 13, 2021, 2:37 AM UTC

Gene_Parmesan wrote: post #88

v64 wrote: post #2

This match was notable for a number of reasons: 1) Game 6 lasted 136 moves, making it the longest game in world championship history, surpassing the 124 move game 5 of Korchnoi-Karpov in 1978. 2) Carlsen's victory in game 6 was also the first decisive match game (excluding tiebreakers) since game 10 of Carlsen's defense against Karjakin in 2016. Carlsen's defense against Caruana in 2018 featured 12 draws before movin…

> Carlsen's defense against Caruana in 2018 featured 12 draws before moving into tiebreakers I really hope they are able to figure out some not-too-unnatural way to reduce the likelihood of draws. One easy possibility I saw suggested a number of times would be to remove the increment. Give additional time at certain move thresholds like they do now, but then at some point, that's it. No more time. Time pressure shoul…

There’s plenty of chess tournaments with much shorter speeds. Some people only play rapid chess variants.

I don’t see why removing slower chess tournaments on top of that is necessary.

Re: Magnus Carlsen retains title after winning lopsided match

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Post by magicalhippo » Mon, Dec 13, 2021, 9:29 AM UTC

joegreen wrote: post #141

v64 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for pointing this out! Game 6 started at 4:30pm local time and ended at 12:17am, making the game length 7 hours and 47 minutes total. It was the first time since adjournments were abolished in the 90s that a championship game started on one day and ended on another.

Is there a time limit for each player?

It varies a bit, but in this case[1] they had two hours each to reach 40 moves, without additional time per move. After move 40 then they got an additional hour each until move 60. After move 60 they got 15 minutes each, as well as each move now giving them 30 seconds.

If the player runs out of time they lose.

[1]: https://www.chess.com/article/view/world-chess-championship-...