Idle comment: we use their smaller keychain bags for car fobs, after hearing with dismay first- and second- hand accounts of relay attacks being used to steal or ransack cars in our neighborhood (94110). We now keep our fobs in them except in use.
Testing Phone-Sized Faraday Bags
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#142This is a super cool blog post. However I think it alludes to a much larger problem. For many products today, it’s very difficult or impossible for most people to verify the product works. For a network switch, there are free and open source tools like iPerf to test and verify speeds are as advertised. For a faraday box, you have to go through all these steps (and knowledge learned) just to be able to test these. Wha…
I'd like to describe a complementary problem to yours - that it's very difficult or impossible to find out others' experiences with a product's quality, durability, and performance. That is - the complement to the problem of "it's hard to determine if some products work" is "it's hard to find other users' experiences with the product". Amazon reviews are completely worthless, but very few other platforms have anywher…
Re: Testing Phone-Sized Faraday Bags
#143This is a super cool blog post. However I think it alludes to a much larger problem. For many products today, it’s very difficult or impossible for most people to verify the product works. For a network switch, there are free and open source tools like iPerf to test and verify speeds are as advertised. For a faraday box, you have to go through all these steps (and knowledge learned) just to be able to test these. Wha…
tl;dw They're building a setup where they can test a bunch of computer equipment with standardised tests (built by them) in a standardised environment (also built by themselves).
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#144I really like Snowden's recommended Faraday cage for phones or other devices of similar size: two drink-shaker cups[1]. Drink shakers are cheap and widely available. The average hotel room in any medium/large hotel chain probably includes a shaker as a standard item as part of the minibar. The simple two-cup style (as seen in [1]) is preferred over the fancier "strainer top" style because you can press the two cups t…
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#145> While the cookie tin performed much better than the mylar bags, and could provide a modicum of useful attenuation under some circumstances, it was not sufficient to provide meaningful assurance of signal isolation at any frequency. However, it was unique among the containers tested in providing tasty snacks during measurements Back in the day working for Symbian I used to regularly have to run a load of automated B…
When I was in jail I had a cellie who imported drugs from China. They were always shipped inside defunct microwave ovens. I wondered if it was just because it looked like a harmless kitchen appliance or because the microwave provided shielding from an x-ray scan?
A faraday cage/bag does not protect x-ray since it ‘only’ blocks electromagnetic fields.
So I guess in the case you mention it’s more hiding in the insulation/empty space of an appliance.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the issue is then you have to wait until you are already inside the hotel to use those shakers, which as others have said don’t actually exist in most hotels, and at that point you have been tracked to your exact location. Then it would be trivial to surveil you with other methods without needing your phone.
Pretty sure Google uses dead reckoning geolocation tracking when no signal is available. So as long as your phone is outside of the bag at some point, you're being tracked even when the phone is in the bag, and Google can correct any errors in their dead reckoning calculations once a signal is found.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I was in jail I had a cellie who imported drugs from China. They were always shipped inside defunct microwave ovens. I wondered if it was just because it looked like a harmless kitchen appliance or because the microwave provided shielding from an x-ray scan?
This really depends on the X-ray machine, a powerful x-ray source might easily penetrate a small appliance. A faraday cage/bag does not protect x-ray since it ‘only’ blocks electromagnetic fields. So I guess in the case you mention it’s more hiding in the insulation/empty space of an appliance.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see one of the founders (Ulrich Rhode) of Rhode and Schwarz on amateur radio some times, and I always ask for test equipment and he always says no.
I see you are from , can you please send me a lifetime supply of whatever you make / have / sell please?
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#150This article was a fun read, and it really highlights how we trust the words on the tin to be accurate and not mistaken marketing gibberish. However, the part about the cost ranging from $40 - $80 is simply not true. I know this, because I purchased for $20 yesterday a faraday box to hold my auto key fobs and my cell phone. [1] There are very many items for sale at this price point, fabric, pouches and boxes. [1] htt…
Key fobs! Isn't there a scheme where thieves clone the signal from a key fob when the owner is asleep in their home and drive off with their car?