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Re: DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt

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Post by tuukkah »

texasbigdata wrote: post #140
tuukkah wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, some directions of "growing socially" are strictly prohibited in China and perhaps also for those who ever want to go (back) to China. But does some directions mean all directions in practise? I don't know.

First of all, their policy is much more extensive, but lets ignore because it’s not in the spirit of HN to verge so much off topic. Believing free speech is context dependent (outside of yelling fire in a movie theater) seems like a future worth avoiding no matter what the benefits are when viewed in a historical context. You can stretch the analogy and say the same thing about Iran. Sorry just not interested, we’re…

How did we go from isolationism to free speech? If the only context dependency you allow is the one you mention, your argument applies to e.g. European laws against hate speech as well. Is Europe isolationist too?

Re: DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt

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Post by cblconfederate »

input_sh wrote: post #111
cblconfederate wrote: post #96

I understand the convenience of delivered food esp. during the lockdowns, but people should not be glorifying these companies that are instituting a modern big-tech-powered serfdom by scraping the bottom of the barrel of gig work. We need a better model for this , not human-robots that carry food to the well-off.

The one I'm using was recently forced to employ their workers full time. It means no more flexibility, losing about a 100 drivers instantly, and increasing delivery times by about 30-40 min in the short run, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I don't know if Glovo as their only real competitor is held onto the same standard, I refuse to use them because they approached the market by throwing money at it, buying compet…

But what do you think about this lifestyle in which middle class people sit trapped in their homes all day while the peasants bring their food and groceries to them. Are we turning cities to prisons without bars?

Re: DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt

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Post by cblconfederate »

Strom wrote: post #73
cblconfederate wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU has no say in this, Finland does.

The EU definitely has a say. It's true that Finland can choose to leave the EU, but it's disingenuous to say that EU doesn't have a say. However "having a say" goes even further, because Wolt operates also outside the EU. Any country it operates in will have a clear say. Even countries it doesn't operate in will have a say if they have leverage over any of the countries where Wolt operates in. So in this case, the US…

will it need to approve the acquisition?

Re: DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt

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Post by bwlg »

deanc wrote: post #95
bwlg wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Germany we have services commonly referred to as "Essen auf Rädern" (Meals on Wheels). A quick search shows that the concept actually originated in the 40s in the UK and has also made it to the US in the 60s [1]. Disabled and elderly people not being able to procure their own food isn't really a new problem and also isn't a problem that most first world societies have ignored. So I'm not really sure what disabled…

It has nothing to do with it. It was a direct response to the idea that the only people ordering from food delivery services are lazy, which is simply not true. I was incapacitated last year due to an injury and wasn't able to leave the house for a couple of weeks. I would have really struggled without Wolt.

Fair enough, sorry then. I mistook it as an argument against delivery fees.

If you're incapacitated for a longer time, you might still want to check out if any meals on wheels services are available to you. I actually know a few colleagues (in their 30s) that started getting those since working 100% from home. It can be quite a bit cheaper. And if you're like me it would also be healthier, because every time I order food it turns out to be something like burgers with fries ;-)

Re: DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

tuukkah wrote: post #77
MomoXenosaga wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the downside of free trade: foreigners can fly in and buy up all your companies. Which is exactly why China protects their tech industry like a wolf her cubs. Capitalism favours the strong.

You can be happy when your companies are bought and you can invest in a new round of (local) startups.

Yes I'm sure there will be a startup rival for Google any day now...

Re: DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt

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Post by bkberry352 »

avree wrote: post #138
rednum wrote: post #81

Well, that's sad news. Wolt used to be the only food delivery company that had actually functional customer service. They replied swiftly, sometimes automatically even granted some promo codes when the delivery was really late. I suppose that will be gone soon. Other companies I used ranged from "Your order never arrived? Ok, we'll refund you after some time if you jump through enough hoops" (Glovo) to non-existent:…

Well, DoorDash has always a) instantly replied to me and b) fully refunded me for any order that doesn't arrive. In fact, they have an automatic flow to get refunds that takes a few seconds to complete.

Agree, my experience with their customer service has been excellent. Missing side = automatic 50% refund for cost of that dish, don't have to talk to any customer service, you just tap a few buttons in the app.

Re: DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt

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Post by agentdrtran »

input_sh wrote: post #111
cblconfederate wrote: post #96

I understand the convenience of delivered food esp. during the lockdowns, but people should not be glorifying these companies that are instituting a modern big-tech-powered serfdom by scraping the bottom of the barrel of gig work. We need a better model for this , not human-robots that carry food to the well-off.

The one I'm using was recently forced to employ their workers full time. It means no more flexibility, losing about a 100 drivers instantly, and increasing delivery times by about 30-40 min in the short run, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I don't know if Glovo as their only real competitor is held onto the same standard, I refuse to use them because they approached the market by throwing money at it, buying compet…

the only options here aren't full-time or serfdom.

Re: DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt

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Post by input_sh »

cblconfederate wrote: post #142
input_sh wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The one I'm using was recently forced to employ their workers full time. It means no more flexibility, losing about a 100 drivers instantly, and increasing delivery times by about 30-40 min in the short run, and I'm perfectly fine with that. I don't know if Glovo as their only real competitor is held onto the same standard, I refuse to use them because they approached the market by throwing money at it, buying compet…

But what do you think about this lifestyle in which middle class people sit trapped in their homes all day while the peasants bring their food and groceries to them. Are we turning cities to prisons without bars?

I'm not "trapped indoors", I'm too lazy to cook every meal. You've made a pretty big leap between using a delivery app and using it all the time for everything. I do one meal a week, maybe two if I'm really lazy. I also buy my own groceries. Shocking, I know.

The amount of people that can afford to do that all the time will always be small enough not to make any difference in how a city operates.

Re: DoorDash Joins Forces with Wolt

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Post by dang »

tsywke44 wrote: post #26

Wolt was a show of Northern European style software/business development, and it’s why Doordash acquired them. Now that US big tech has their dirty fingers all over Wolt, I’ll guess all that will be gone in 3 years as the bullshit starts creeping in.

Please keep nationalistic swipes off HN, regardless of which nation you have a problem with. It reliably makes threads low-quality, leads to worse (usually much worse) from others, and is not at all what this site is supposed to be for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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