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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Apparently the 'misinformation' trope has extended into art. Many of you defending censorship in the last few years (and very much so on HN) on political grounds are going to be changing your minds in the coming years due to stuff like this.

I don’t expect many minds to change. I predict the “‘private’ [misnomer] companies can do what they want [broadly false]” crowd to dig in and rationalize why art is not a special case. My own hypothesis is they personally identify with the corporations, e.g. they are entrepreneurs or might want to become entrepreneurs someday.

Honestly I don't think it's that they identify as entrepreneurs or business owners, I think it's just that they identify as progressives, and there is an incredibly prominent pro-censorship current in modern progressive ideology. I say this because I've definitely interacted with many people in real life who are not the "entrepreneur" or "pro corporate" types yet happily cheer on the censorship being practiced by big tech and the like

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https://variety.com/2021/music/news/youtube-will-not-ban-yg-... When songs promote robbing Asian people YouTube says “ In a memo to staff explaining the rationale for not barring the YG video, management wrote: “We’ll start by saying we find this video to be highly offensive and understand it is painful for many to watch, including many in Trust & Safety and especially given the ongoing violence against the Asian com…

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Biden said the jab stop the spread, it was lies (I remember) Thing is, if I remember rightly Biden did spread outright misinformation that falsely claimed the vaccine was a lot more effective than it actually is using his platform as president, and got checked on it by the BBC (though maybe not the mainstream US media)...

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/22/joe-biden/...

This aged poorly given information we have about breakthrough rates.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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The art was made without issue. Distribution is not a right.

What classifies as distribution?

YouTube hosting the art. YouTube gets to decide what YouTube shows to its users.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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post #106

Apparently the 'misinformation' trope has extended into art. Many of you defending censorship in the last few years (and very much so on HN) on political grounds are going to be changing your minds in the coming years due to stuff like this.

This better not get to hosting providers or it all goes to shit. Sure, big platforms censoring stuff is bad, but people still have the choice of renting a server and hosting whatever they want. If your website, hosted on a dedicated machine that you rent from OVH or whatever (and probably Amazon, but I wouldn't trust them) or co-locate in a datacenter, can be taken down on claims of misinformation, that's it, RIP fre…

What about GoDaddy?

https://gizmodo.com/godaddy-is-giving-texas-abortion-snitchi...

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Silencing people and pretending it’s OK is not going to work. It’s a double edge sword. Because one day they’re going to silence you. The math doesn’t work out long term.

> It’s a double edge sword. Because one day they’re going to silence you.

This is true, but it is an important topic so here is another angle to consider:

YouTube doesn't have any tools to sift right from wrong that we don't already have, and their censors are probably only marginally more intelligent than average.

They are going to get stuff really wrong from time to time, and eventually are going to censor important information - if they haven't already, it is hard to tell.

Case in point, censors generally aren't bought in to hit stuff that is obviously wrong. Everyone knows that sort of content is garbage and only watches it for a laugh (think flat earthers). They are coming in for stuff where the available evidence makes it difficult to tell what is true or not (eg, ivermectin). They're going to make some horrible mistakes playing at that game, because by nature of what they are targeting, some of it is going to be factual content.

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Tech bros are now the gatekeepers of information for hundreds of millions of eyes (not just youtube, also google search manipulation, facebook algos, arguably outlets like netflix...maybe not Amazon yet) and here about half of the western world is cheering on the suppression. How can someone place so much trust in this suppression without even seeing what's being censored? Is it just a deliberate blissful ignorance?…

Well, it's not tech bros so much as it's the people failing to know where to get their information. Tech bros gon' tech bro, why would you try to get your news from them?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Article goes out of its way to avoid saying what's actually in the song or video.

Does it really matter? Clearly it would be in the realm of satire or political humor, things liberals have historically been very vocal about protecting.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Apparently the 'misinformation' trope has extended into art. Many of you defending censorship in the last few years (and very much so on HN) on political grounds are going to be changing your minds in the coming years due to stuff like this.

Censorship, to me, would be the government forcing these platforms to host content that isn't in their business interests, because it would be compelling speech. That's a much worse problem, in my mind, than private organizations removing content from their platforms.

I would rather live in this world than the alternative.

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