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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by y4mi »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

I'm amazed you even noticed.

going through it some look pretty white though. ill be the first to admit that i'm not particularly good at classifying people, but this one in particularly looked like a white male

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s6bCli03aqnY_KvZoPaTgiFqCj...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by quotemstr »

eikenberry wrote: post #84
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not how open source works in SoC design. In fact it doesn't work at all an here's why: Google hasn't made the SoC and doesn't own the IP, it most likely bought a bunch of IP blocks from established vendors like Cadence, Synopys, Samsung, etc and fused them together to create a SoC. All those IPs come with their own license terms and NDAs that limit what you can do with it. You can use it in your final product…

How do they use the GPL2'd Linux kernel then? It implements drivers in the kernel and the license requires that the source be released. Do they use tricks like nvidia and create a free software shim module ties in a userspace driver?

Each major release of Android has an explicitly stable kernel internal ABI, meaning that shipping binary drivers is much more viable than it was before.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by criddell »

o_____________o wrote: post #53

Switched to iPhone last year and can't believe how bad iOS is generally. Feels years behind. Missing Android!

I'm about to switch in the other direction because there are iOS-only apps that I want to run. Plus, because of higher resale value, iOS devices cost less.

I already have an iPad which is probably my favorite device to use. I might end up taking another look at Android when Google finally releases their Shortcuts clone.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by seneca »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

It really has gotten incredibly heavy handed. Their entire marketing campaign for this phone seems to primarily focus on social engineering.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by causi »

Farbklex wrote: post #134
causi wrote: post #3

Are they still arbitrarily disabling HDMI-out to force us to buy a Chromecast?

A Pixel phone with this feature would be reason enough for me to upgrade from a Pixel 3a. Just let me play games via HDMI out and a bluetooth gamepad.

Hell, I'd buy whatever Chromecast Super Mega Ultra they wanted to sell me as long as it gave me lag-free mirroring. You can't game on a half second delay.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by b112 »

psychometry wrote: post #69
alexmcc81 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> exact matches Not exact matches. Hashes. Hashes that were quickly show to have collisions that the company brushed off.

Thus the manual review. No one's going to be going to prison over a hash collision here.

I used to work in the same building, as a department with legal authorities (purposefully vague here), and the burn out rate was astronomical.

Good, descent people, waking up screaming, cold shakes, permanently damaged from what they could not unsee.

You couldn't pay me enough to go through images of such sickness.

Outside of all the yes/no, on/off phone stuff, how are they going to hire, and keep staffed, a department of people having to look at this stuff.

How are they going to insure it?!

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by seneca »

wffurr wrote: post #116
eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

How interesting that this clearly made made you uncomfortable. I imagine it's similar to how people of color feel when seeing seas of white faces on product pages past.

> I imagine it's similar to how people of color feel when seeing seas of white faces on product pages past.

This is an American company. The US is largely white. A product page for an Indian company wouldn't shock anyone by primarily including Indian faces.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by jodrellblank »

aaomidi wrote: post #27
meetups323 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think Google doesn't scan photos uploaded to its cloud services for CSAM?

Do you understand how it's different when it's on their servers vs having the functionality to scan for anything they want on your phone? We don't need to have this discussion again. Please go research the hundreds of thousands of discussions and blog posts about how what apple is proposing to do is entirely different.

> "Do you understand how it's different when it's on their servers vs having the functionality to scan for anything they want on your phone?"

It's this kind of casual fearmongering which stops people from accurately understanding.

What makes you think Apple doesn't already have the functionality to scan for anything they want on your phone, given that they built a phone content scanner a decade ago for the iTunes Match service and a photo tagger and analyser which does run on the phone, and they control everything about the software?

What makes you think Google doesn't have the functionality to scan for anything they want on your phone, or couldn't add it if they wanted to? Have you the source code for the Google Play services? The internal chip firmwares? Have you studied Google's terms and conditions in enough detail to be certain they can't move any such checks client side without telling you? And they also do analyse photos on-device and tag their content for normal use.

Why do you trust that Google isn't doing anything snitchy or on behalf of the authorities, but when Apple announces that they won't and designs a system which makes it hard for them to do that, then you assume they will? Not even quietly cynically suspect that they might, but spreading as a fact that they definitely will.

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