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The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without a prescription

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Re: The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without a prescription

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It has always seemed broken to me that hearing aids were not covered by healthcare, nor was there some sort of VSP like plan for hearing aids. I've worked with folks who had hearing aids from childhood and it is a big expense to bear while their glasses are subsidized.

Of course, the vision folks turned it into a racket for extracting cash. So ideally we'd want to avoid that and perhaps fix the vision racket while we are at it.

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I have been to maybe a half dozen different optometrists over the last 25 years and they have always used several expensive looking machines to screen for eye disease. Most frequently a machine that uses a puff of air to measure the pressure in your eye and more recently, a machine with a bright light that gets detailed imagery of the vascular structure on the back of your eye.

Yes, although that test is automated and typically done by a technician not an optometrist. You can train someone to use one of these machines in a few hours. If this was a key test no reason we couldn’t just put one in every GP office and have eye pressure checked during an annual checkup.

> annual checkup

We're supposed to go EVERY YEAR?

Re: The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without a prescription

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Similar frustration – I need a prescription to buy contact lenses every year. So I have to go get an annual eye checkup, which is still fine because it is preventive care and (mostly) covered by insurance. However, optometrists around me refuse to give a prescription for contact lenses without an additional $70 "contact lens fitting" fee which is not covered by insurance. The whole thing is a scam.

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Then the doctor leaves their signature off the prescription so that it is effectively useless.

This is just a general thing I've learned from working adjacent to US healthcare... It's annoying to work with and there are all kinds of little rules because of how inefficient the system is. First, always have a list of all relevant phone numbers (at a minimum, but other information is helpful too) to any healthcare entity you need to work with. Your primary care doctor, your pharmacy, your hospital, your preferred…

Wow, I'm so sorry you have to put up with that. My non-US experience: I logged in to a website, clicked a couple of buttons, and the doctor sent a repeat prescription to the pharmacy yesterday. I expect it to be ready to pick up later today. Done.

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12 years ago, I walked into a second hand eye glasses shop in India and they had one of these machines. It was amazingly effective. I felt duped by all the optometrist appointments asking me about A or B.

Duped, because they are doing it the old-fashioned way?

Because they are making theater to justify their cost.

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Not sure why vision checks require a doctor at all. In the end, they're just relying on your responses anyway: "What's better: A or B"? In fact, I'd go further and say it doesn't even require another person. I, for one, am glad to see this bill.

Vision checks have also changed a lot in the last five years or so. I have a pretty strong prescription and always used to do rounds of reading charts and "A or B", and now there's a machine that scans my eyes and gets it very close to right, with an adjustment or two at the end.

Eye exams are not easy or one size fits all. The machine does objective refraction, which is a different and more error prone method than subjective refraction. Also for multifocals you'll need a more tailored prescription. There's definitely progress in autorefractors though!

Re: The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without a prescription

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How much would you pay for: *Hearing test * Hearing aid fitting * Usage counselling * Follow up adjustments * Annual retest of your hearing * Replacement of lost hearing aids * Unlimited repair for 3 years ?? ====== I got out of the Audiology field in 2015. At that time all the above was included for every hearing aid we sold (Prices varied from $750 / ear - $3600 / ear. When I was in that field many companies tried…

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this something people could do on their own at home if the hardware had a decent setup UX / tuning instructions? This doesn’t necessarily seem like something that couldn’t be done pretty automatically.

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BUT WHAT IF PEOPLE ABUSE HEARING AID?????? To be serious: amount of things that are "prescription only", even if they can cause only minimal harm, is astounding.

You can cause more than "minimal" harm. Both hearing loss and comprehension can be changed by an improper hearing aid.

Re: The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without a prescription

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How much would you pay for: *Hearing test * Hearing aid fitting * Usage counselling * Follow up adjustments * Annual retest of your hearing * Replacement of lost hearing aids * Unlimited repair for 3 years ?? ====== I got out of the Audiology field in 2015. At that time all the above was included for every hearing aid we sold (Prices varied from $750 / ear - $3600 / ear. When I was in that field many companies tried…

I guess one question is: do those things have to cost thousands of dollars? What are the primary cost components? Are the people doing these jobs highly paid? Are they highly paid because of high costs of college tuition? Would free college help lower their costs?

Re: The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without a prescription

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BUT WHAT IF PEOPLE ABUSE HEARING AID?????? To be serious: amount of things that are "prescription only", even if they can cause only minimal harm, is astounding.

What if they do end up with a better hearing though? Think about the consequences.. Or what if the ENTs haven't lobbied lately but instead the device makers did this time?

Perhaps you do not realize, or are just trying to be funny, but most audiology professionals do this to help people hear better.
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