Does this release allow ZFS-on-root via the server installer? (previous releases allowed ZFS-on-root, but only via the desktop installer)
Ubuntu 21.10
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Re: Ubuntu 21.10
#142Over a decade of Ubuntu use, could not be happier! I remember in 2000s, I had to edit /etc/ text files to set up internet etc. Nowadays everything works out of box. All sorts of peripherals and hardware is recognized automatically. High quality free open source software is available for most stuff I need. The freedom to choose software and customize Linux, if required, is amazing! Am I missing anything ignoring close…
For my work PC, I use Ubuntu, period. Too many third party apps just don't work very well outside of the Ubuntu ecosystem, apps which I need in order to function in my workplace. I'd probably use something like Arch or rolling my own for work if these apps weren't necessary!
fyi: There are distros which are fundamentally Ubuntu, like PopOS.
I'm curious if the apps you're talking about are not mainstream.
Re: Ubuntu 21.10
#143Funny, I run Ubuntu on my laptop and tried just today to upgrade it (since I'm on 18.04 and have been for a while). But no matter how I try, `do-release-upgrade` won't do the upgrade, complaining about third party repositories (removed all of them as a result), mismatched python versions, and a load of other issues. When I fix one, another one appears. Tried for 5 hours today and eventually gave up. On the other hand…
In my experience it's best to simply not attempt in-place major distro version upgrades and approach them instead as a backup/reimage/restore (or using an alternate/new machine) This has been true for me across all distros, and honestly it's a main reason why I only run linux on servers anymore (easy to create a new VM for upgrades, harder to create a new laptop)
In my patchy and incomplete experience this is true for Ubuntu but untrue for Debian. As long as I've followed the upgrade instructions I don't think I've ever had a Debian stable version bump fail. Whereas Ubuntu... yeah, backup and restore, because you're going to do it anyway.
Re: Ubuntu 21.10
#144I loved Ubuntu around 2007-2009 or so. Nowdays it feels like there are plenty of alternative distros that "just work" without so many of the idiosyncratic stuff canonical keeps dumping into what used to be "debian for the masses" > As Linux evangelist Mark Pilgrim once quipped, Ubuntu "is an ancient African word meaning 'can't install Debian'". https://www.theregister.com/2009/02/16/debian_lenny_review/
I’m a long time Ubuntu user and haven’t really shopped for other distros. Any recommendations besides Debian?
KDE Neon. Based on Ubuntu but with a UI built by and for actual users, not a UI built by experts for grandmothers.
Re: Ubuntu 21.10
#145I loved Ubuntu around 2007-2009 or so. Nowdays it feels like there are plenty of alternative distros that "just work" without so many of the idiosyncratic stuff canonical keeps dumping into what used to be "debian for the masses" > As Linux evangelist Mark Pilgrim once quipped, Ubuntu "is an ancient African word meaning 'can't install Debian'". https://www.theregister.com/2009/02/16/debian_lenny_review/
If anything, Cannonical is aligning with mainstream in recent years: upstart -> systemd, unity -> gnome, mir -> wayland New things that are Canonical specific are netplan and snap. I think snap is solving software packaging in Linux. If anything, I wish that snap brand stores were more affordable.
what's wrong with snap? is it that it needs a deamon?
Re: Ubuntu 21.10
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think part of the problem is that third party apt repositories have become normalised as if they're a reasonable way to "add on" to your existing system. In reality they're a hack on a packaging system that was never designed for third party plugability in this way. They very often break future upgrades. Third party apt repositories fundamentally cannot express all the necessary metadata to allow for upgrades to wo…
So, what should I do if you don't decide to include critical release of a package that was out there for 6 months? https://github.com/swaywm/sway/releases
Sorry that wasn't included. Please understand that it's not about "you" and "me" though. Anyone can contribute to Ubuntu, and "any responsibility can be carried by any contributor who demonstrates the required capacity and competence" (https://ubuntu.com/community/code-of-conduct). So please join us and help to make this happen next time.
Of course there are processes and policies to help us ensure quality and that other user expectations (eg. stability, integration) are met as best as we can. These take time and effort to negotiate. But we'd be happy to help to explain what's needed to be contributed to make progress in Ubuntu itself for any specific circumstance. Find us in #ubuntu-devel on Libera Chat, or https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discu...
Re: Ubuntu 21.10
#147The one thing that I don't like about Ubuntu is that you don't have a taskbar. It is such a productivity boost to see a list of all windows and their titles. And it let's me organize my work much better when I can organize this list by changing the order of the buttons. Is anybody here using Ubuntu with a taskbar?
Horizontal bar, with icon and title, for the windows open in the current desktop; vertical bar, with bigger icon, for the windows from all desktops.
Re: Ubuntu 21.10
#148I loved Ubuntu around 2007-2009 or so. Nowdays it feels like there are plenty of alternative distros that "just work" without so many of the idiosyncratic stuff canonical keeps dumping into what used to be "debian for the masses" > As Linux evangelist Mark Pilgrim once quipped, Ubuntu "is an ancient African word meaning 'can't install Debian'". https://www.theregister.com/2009/02/16/debian_lenny_review/
I’m a long time Ubuntu user and haven’t really shopped for other distros. Any recommendations besides Debian?
If you want to use a multitouch trackpad fluently, Elementary is is the only game in town. It has macOS-level support which is pretty cool.
Re: Ubuntu 21.10
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m a long time Ubuntu user and haven’t really shopped for other distros. Any recommendations besides Debian?
Mint is arguably better at being what Ubuntu was originally intended to be. And is still based on Ubuntu, so all your mad apt-get skills still apply, the packages are readily available etc.
Ubuntu is a commercial distro. They have their own infra, they have their own security team, they have large amounts of reliable funding and contracts.
Mint is worked by a few people, had several large security flaws including not distributing security updates timely. They had issues in the past with their ISO being hacked.
I can empathize with the whole mint, small time dev-base stuff. It just doesn't make sense to me compared with just going straight ubuntu + cinnamon.
Re: Ubuntu 21.10
#150A lot of negativity in this thread. I've been using Ubuntu for about 10 years and is my favorite distro after trying a few others. I went through the whole distro hoping thing and using Arch to set up everything just the way I wanted phase, and while very fun & educational, it isn't good for getting things done. Ubuntu just works and let's me be productive with things I care about. Thank you Ubuntu team!
Same, getting close to 20 years of use here and I keep coming back to it.
Big thanks to the team and community. I'll see if I can read a Full Circle again soon. :-)