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YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by janandonly »

chongli wrote: post #116
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you can get 10TB [ EDIT: 4TB ] external drives for around $100, this is totally absurd pathway to take towards "preserving your own culture".

It's more like $300+ dollars but there's another, more important point: hard drives fail. If we're talking about YouTube creators who spend hours producing culturally relevant content, we're going to want a much more robust backup strategy than simply throwing it on an external hard drive. Is it possible for a home user to build a storage system with high availability and off-site backups? Sure. Will it be affordable…

I like your thinking... but why hide a video on a private HDD?

I was just thinking about this problem from a different angle.

What if everyone, or at least a bunch of willing souls, ran the following script on their on pc's:

1. YouTube-dlc every video you ever watch automatically in the background and save to NEW_VID directory

2. make a checksum of every file that comes into NEW_VID

3. Check by using the checksum if the file already exists on open platforms like https://joinpeertube.org, https://odysee.com or https://d.tube

4. If not, upload the file.

5. Delete the file.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by lukifer »

sarbaz wrote: post #136
plainnoodles wrote: post #7

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

As copyrighted material, it should be required that a copy be stored with library of Congress. It used to be that LoC submission was part of the deal with copyright, but somehow we forgot that and important history has already been lost.

It’s oft forgotten that U.S. intellectual property constructs were created not purely for the natural rights of individual creators, but as an incentive for public benefit: “to promote the progress of science and useful arts”.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by tokai »

sarbaz wrote: post #136
plainnoodles wrote: post #7

This isn't a great specific example (it's "just" a meme and not even a particularly culturally significant one in the grand scheme of things), but in general this is why projects like youtube-dl are important. It might not be glamorous, and it might be a little stupid, but damnit this is our culture, for better or worse! And we should preserve it. Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store…

As copyrighted material, it should be required that a copy be stored with library of Congress. It used to be that LoC submission was part of the deal with copyright, but somehow we forgot that and important history has already been lost.

LoC does archive web content. https://www.loc.gov/programs/web-archiving/about-this-progra...

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by janandonly »

nradov wrote: post #66
mindslight wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Private companies seem to be the only ones with the resources to store all the video content we produce Definitely not. It's an addressing problem. I guarantee plenty of people have the youtube video downloaded with more redundancy than Google, and the OP even has the source files. The problem is that Youtube became the canonical URL for referencing the video, assuming singular power to control that address based o…

Maybe we need a new URI scheme and associated address resolution system for videos and other user generated content?

The proposed solution of a different URI scheme exists. It's called IPFS.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by mhh__ »

gambler wrote: post #65

If only Hacker News crowd noticed when thousands of videos with interviews, medical lectures, news footage and even congressional testimonies were removed for political reasons within the last couple years.

You say that even though there is a thread on the homepage about big tech companies censoring things about COVID almost literally every day?

Here's the thread for today, currently at #2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28693060

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by janandonly »

robd003 wrote: post #130

Can we all agree that censorship sucks? I've been using Odysee/LBRY which has a P2P video platform and all of the metadata is stored on blockchain.

YES!

What if everyone, or at least a bunch of willing souls, ran the following script on their on pc's:

1. YouTube-dlc every video you ever watch automatically in the background and save to NEW_VID directory

2. make a checksum of every file that comes into NEW_VID

3. Check by using the checksum if the file already exists on open platforms like https://joinpeertube.org, https://odysee.com or https://d.tube

4. If not, upload the file.

5. Delete the file.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

eptcyka wrote: post #121
PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you can get 10TB [ EDIT: 4TB ] external drives for around $100, this is totally absurd pathway to take towards "preserving your own culture".

I'd love to know where I can get drives that cheap.

Yeah, sorry, i was misled by a google shopping ad summary. Edited the post for correctness.

Re: YouTube removes “I Can't Believe You've Done This” video from 2007

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Post by janandonly »

marcodiego wrote: post #28

People should remember that there are alternatives like peertube.

My thinking exactly... but it's a vicious cycle.... As long as YT is the biggest source, people will flock to it to search there first...

A proposed solution is:

What if everyone, or at least a bunch of willing souls, ran the following script on their on pc's:

1. YouTube-dlc every video you ever watch automatically in the background and save to NEW_VID directory

2. make a checksum of every file that comes into NEW_VID

3. Check by using the checksum if the file already exists on open platforms like https://joinpeertube.org, https://odysee.com or https://d.tube

4. If not, upload the file.

5. Delete the file.

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