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Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by Macha »

joeberon wrote: post #76
da39a3ee wrote: post #70

This is why people use Apple laptops. I’d be fine using Linux as my OS. But my employer issues my laptop and chooses the model. If serious non-Apple laptop manufacturers are still making crap like this, how do I know my employer won’t choose hardware as bad as this for their Windows and Linux employees?

I agree, you're going to get downvoted but it's just true. This _is_ why people use MacBooks. It just isn't the same experience in other cases, especially now with the extreme quietness and performance of M1, but even before the standby behaviour was extremely reliable.

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/guide/mac-help/mh40773/mac

Mac sleep isn't sleep either, and yes, some macs have issues returning to sleep after

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by Macha »

matkoniecz wrote: post #25
174SIGSEGV wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. I would personally consider damage caused by an unreliable suspend mode (whether an issue of software or hardware) to be an example of manufacturer defect.

The problem is that Windows defect breaks laptops not under warranty by Microsoft. Getting refund would be tricky, and voiding Dell warranty in such case seems justified.

You could argue this for pretty much anything? Your mac screen failure is LG's fault, not Apple's. Your Asus GPU's failure is Nvidia's fault, not Asus's. Your internet outage is Cisco's fault, not your ISP's.

Ultimately the company selling to the end user has to stand over the package they're selling.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by joeberon »

Macha wrote: post #141
joeberon wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, you're going to get downvoted but it's just true. This _is_ why people use MacBooks. It just isn't the same experience in other cases, especially now with the extreme quietness and performance of M1, but even before the standby behaviour was extremely reliable.

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/guide/mac-help/mh40773/mac Mac sleep isn't sleep either, and yes, some macs have issues returning to sleep after

You can turn power nap off, and "some macs have issues" is _very_ different from Dell saying "if you put it in your bag on standby it voids your warranty".

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by nottorp »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #12

> With regards to transporting your laptop, you must first turn the laptop OFF This has been a problem for already quite long. I remember my very old laptop overheating if being put in the backpack in Standby mode. Nowadays I in fact don't just turn laptops Off the default way. I go and disable the "fast start up" (Control Panel - Power Options - Choose what the power buttons do) to make sure the computer gets turnt…

> Besides starting up fast, another important value standby modes add is freeing you from having to open, position and initialize (open the documents/locations in them) all your apps manually every time.

Wait, Windows still doesn't do that?

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by danmur »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #12

> With regards to transporting your laptop, you must first turn the laptop OFF This has been a problem for already quite long. I remember my very old laptop overheating if being put in the backpack in Standby mode. Nowadays I in fact don't just turn laptops Off the default way. I go and disable the "fast start up" (Control Panel - Power Options - Choose what the power buttons do) to make sure the computer gets turnt…

Your last point is why I use hibernate. The actual boot time is barely noticeable on new laptops but even if I remember what I was doing when I hibernated it, which is rare, it still takes a while to get all my terminal windows back and everything where it was.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by Macha »

joeberon wrote: post #143
Macha wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://support.apple.com/en-ie/guide/mac-help/mh40773/mac Mac sleep isn't sleep either, and yes, some macs have issues returning to sleep after

You can turn power nap off, and "some macs have issues" is _very_ different from Dell saying "if you put it in your bag on standby it voids your warranty".

Dell puts it in writing, Apple puts their fingers in their ears (butterfly keyboards, "you're holding it wrong").

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by notorandit »

> Under no circumstances should you leave a laptop powered on and in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag, backpack, or in an overhead bin. The PC will overheat as a result of that action. Any resulting damage will not be covered by the Dell warranty.

A PC in sleep/hibernate/standby mode is not OFF. It's in a (very) low power mode.

Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by [deleted] »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #121
RGamma wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can enable the start menu hibernate button in advanced power settings: System -> Power & sleep -> Additional power settings -> Choose what the power buttons do -> Change settings that are currently unavailable -> Check Hibernate. And then get lucky that your laptop wakes up again (mine dies 1 out of 10 times) Edit: sorry, can't read.

No, you can't; that option is disabled. It cannot be checked. I don't know how I can state this more clearly. "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" is checked, and that option is also disabled and can't be unchecked, despite obviously being undesirable.

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Re: Do not leave XPS laptop in any sleep/hibernate/standby mode when placed in a bag

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Post by joeberon »

Macha wrote: post #146
joeberon wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can turn power nap off, and "some macs have issues" is _very_ different from Dell saying "if you put it in your bag on standby it voids your warranty".

Dell puts it in writing, Apple puts their fingers in their ears (butterfly keyboards, "you're holding it wrong").

So your justification for Dell voiding warranty upon putting the laptop in the bag on standby is that reads notes Apple...does not void the warranty, and that it is somehow virtuous to explicitly void warranty instead of honouring warranty? Sorry, but your logic is completely insane.
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