This is all great, but I hope the oct batch ships now. Just waiting for it to show up is driving me crazy :)
The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Linus (the "tech tips" one) said something that sticks in my mind: "The only reason other companies can't do this - and Framework proved it - is because they don't care."
Well, the other reason is that customers don't care either. I certainly don't. The last desktop build I made 5 years ago hasn't had a single component changed in that entire time.
You will care next time you have to build one.
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#143These laptops would be an instant buy from me if I could get a new AMD chip instead of the Intel CPU's.
Same here but for fan noise. Since I've gotten the m1 macbook air, I don't think I can go back to a laptop that runs hot and needs a fan. In the event that I must get a non-m1 laptop, I can definitely see myself buying the framework laptop and putting ubuntu on it.
I've never met someone before that cares about cpu fan noise. Genuinely. It never bothers me so I have never thought about it. Perhaps also because my workflow involves playing music when I work to make me more productive.
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#144Include an option to include a software defined radio and I'm in.
But why? Putting a SDR in a laptop seems counterproductive from an electrical and radio interference POV. The USB2/3 ports are the option to plug in a software defined radio. Unless you mean some pcie interface top end SDR, in which case you probably have the money to throw around to get this custom.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Framework is larger and weighs more than contemporary machines that have larger displays (e.g. ThinkPad X1 Carbon 9th generation), and it has worse performance and shorter battery life because soldered-in RAM isn't some kind of scam, it's actually much better . In short, it was not a lie that you get smaller, lighter, and better laptops with integration. You do, in fact, get all of those things.
Is that a property of the components being soldered in, or just a property of the fact that Framework cannot get access to the highest quality components on the market? Genuine question, I know very little about electrical components.
With RAM, the problem is more that high capacity LPDDR4 modules simply aren't available on SODIMMs.
However this is only because manufacturers don't make them. If Apple asked Micron or Samsung for them, I'm sure it would happen.
A better argument for non-replaceable RAM can be found in the Apple Silicon chips. Building the memory into the SoC provides very tangible performance and efficiency benefits.
Re: The Framework is the most exciting laptop I've used
#146These laptops would be an instant buy from me if I could get a new AMD chip instead of the Intel CPU's.
Yep.
At this point in time it's the only choice.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
ive seen a lot of requests for an AMD version but i always see people complain about AMD's linux support. Do you plan on running windows? If you are planning on Linux is the support really as bad as people complain. I say that because intel's linux support seems to me as top notch. ive never really had driver issues that i can think of
AMD CPUs and Linux have always been fine for me. The GPUs on the other hand...
Since it’s a laptop then I could see that being an issue though. Intels embedded GPU I guess are slow and clunky but work super well in Linux in my experience.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same here but for fan noise. Since I've gotten the m1 macbook air, I don't think I can go back to a laptop that runs hot and needs a fan. In the event that I must get a non-m1 laptop, I can definitely see myself buying the framework laptop and putting ubuntu on it.
I've never met someone before that cares about cpu fan noise. Genuinely. It never bothers me so I have never thought about it. Perhaps also because my workflow involves playing music when I work to make me more productive.
They likely used apple for a long time before this, and they had a ton of fan noise. So likely wasn't an issue previously.
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#149It feels like for years we were constantly told by these corporations "it's impossible to have slim, tiny laptops and make them customizable", and I guess at some level I believed that, and just accepted that laptops with upgradable components were a thing of the past. After seeing the framework, I'm more than a little annoyed that I fell for this. They proved you can have a slim, clean laptop that's somewhat modular…
The Framework has half the battery life of similarly sized alternatives. No one was lying to you.
From comparative tests or from vendor specs? (Genuine question, I do not know which you are referring to)
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#150I don’t really want an exciting laptop. And I don’t want dongles that plug INTO the laptop. I just want a more powerful 1st gen unibody aluminum MacBook. That was the sweet spot for me. Good ports. Removable battery. Removable memory. Removable disk.