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Post by jacquesm »

Camillo wrote: post #126
jacquesm wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Judging by the vibrations of my walls: yes. The sooner a maximum noise emitted law for vehicles goes into practice the better. I have a neihgbor here who goes out for small trips 20+ times per day on his HD. Open the garage door, take the bike out (running, of course), close the garage door, rev it a couple of times, wait for a few minutes for the engine to warm up, roar away at maximum volume. Return 10 minutes late…

How are you going to deal with the situation?

Not, as far as I know it's all legal, just super annoying. I also don't see the point of going through the whole ritual so many times per day. I really started to notice because of the work-from-home situation after the COVID pandemic took off, if not for that it would have never come to my attention.

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Post by behohippy »

technoplato wrote: post #49
alias_neo wrote: post #34

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Just to be clear, this isn't about using the camera while mounted on the bike, but having the phone mounted ever actually damages the camera for any use, mounted or otherwise?

TLDR shaking the phone anywhere at any time with certain amplitude / frequency combinations will permanently damage sensitive components and make pics look like you’ve got ALS again Yeah they actually go into more interesting detail than expected from a support article and detail how (not an expert so it could just be wool over my eyes Apple BS but doesn’t smell that way here) the OIS and closed loop AF work in that…

Exactly. It doesn't even require the operation of the image stabilization for the damage to happen. The damage happens when it reaches that magic frequency where the components break.

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Post by 8note »

kingkawn wrote: post #35
smoyer wrote: post #8

I live about 5 miles (on the same road) as the local Harley Davidson dealership and would love it if HD riders left the stock pipes on their bikes. While the engines do vibrate, don't dismiss the additional concussive force of an unmuffled exhaust.

For the bikes being loud enough that everyone knows you’re coming is life and death issue on the road surrounded by huge cars and trucks

Mm, but I'm in my house, not on the road. There's no danger from me crashing into this motorcyclist.

My bicycle isn't very loud though; should I be attaching a subwoofer t9 it because I'm around the same cars and trucks? So far, bicycling has been plenty safe without the loudness

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Post by 8note »

Invictus0 wrote: post #46
gbrown wrote: post #39

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That’s the sales pitch, but I haven’t seen any evidence. Almost all the sound is projected behind you, where people can already see you (and where high-vis clothing would be more effective than sound anyway, but you don’t see many bikers wearing that). Anecdotally, the people I’ve known with loud exhaust systems are not what you’d call “safety conscious”.

Even if it's ineffective, it's still a psychological safety blanket. It's much the same reason that bikers ride in groups.

Isn't that to say that's its worse than ineffective? That suggests it causes bikers to do more dangerous things because they think the loudness is protecting them

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Post by 8note »

claytoneast wrote: post #107
jacquesm wrote: post #99

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And that's the real reason. These toddler narcissists are out to make it known to the world that here rides a badass, not that there is someone who drives responsibly and whose life depends on the volume of their exhaust. It's pathetic.

It's not possible that they might just enjoy loud machines? And you might not enjoy loud machines?

They could instead put on lound machine noises in their headphones.

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Post by NathanielK »

cagey wrote: post #118
voisin wrote: post #43

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I would love to see statistics on how many tickets are issued per year for these violations. I suspect zero.

USA long-time motorcycle owner here: agree. I believe there have been laws on the books for many years regarding noise limits, but they are (effectively) NEVER enforced. No-muffler-at-all ("straight-pipe") exhausts on V-twin (EX: Harley Davidson and its countless clones) are de facto standard (and for reasons unclear to me are accepted). Also, aftermarket exhaust systems for motorcycles (99.9% of these being much lou…

> it's a standard first modification done by almost all enthusiast owners.

Since laws are unenforced, it's also possible for dealers to upsell louder exhausts without even needing to visit a 3rd party shop.

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Post by shsbdncudx »

jacquesm wrote: post #95
kube-system wrote: post #82

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Loud pipes are annoying, but they won’t change the amount of vibration transmitted through the handlebars to a phone mount.

Yes, but the proximity is such that the soundwaves themselves could conceivably vibrate the case enough to do damage if it is in a partially enclosed space and facing out (because that way it gets pressure from only one side, essentially a reverse bass speaker).

Nah dude, you’re really reaching. So now loud noises break the iPhones camera?

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Post by anaganisk »

amelius wrote: post #134

If a handlebar can kill a phone, has anyone else wondered what it can do to one's hands and arms?

Are you comparing Nature’s evolution marvel Vs a factory process, ensured to maximise profits?

Well you may not be far tho.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/motorbike-riders-risk-impote...

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Post by tomxor »

dharmab wrote: post #120
tomxor wrote: post #87

> Attaching your iPhone to vehicles with small-volume or electric engines, such as mopeds and scooters, may lead to comparatively lower-amplitude vibrations. No superbikes for you Apple users :D - recoils in anticipation of onslaught of downvotes - In all fairness I expect it's going to be difficult to design anything with such small delicate moving parts to be invulnerable to arbitrary frequency vibrations. It can a…

I keep my iPhone in my jacket pocket and use the bluetooth module on my helmet. I also have a Garmin GPS on the handebar of my touring bike, although in 2021 you can get GPS built right into the bike's instrument panel. (To be fair, my most preferred navigation method on long trips is to tape a piece of paper with handwritten notes to the fuel tank anyway.)

> (To be fair, my most preferred navigation method on long trips is to tape a piece of paper with handwritten notes to the fuel tank anyway.)

Nice to know I'm not alone. This is how I drive cars long distance (but without taping it to a fuel tank), smartphones are handy for quick short navigation, but I feel uncomfortable trusting it for longer journeys - I want to know where i'm going and how i'm going there.

The funny thing is that the act of writing down a summary of the journey, even with diagrams is usually enough for me to remember the whole thing.

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