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Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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For a long time now I've been naming my computers things like "LG Refrigerator" or "LG Microwave" as a joke. I thought it'd be funny if someone was ever checking the network and saw them pop up.

I'm bummed that fridges actually use the internet now.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

That reminded of my father-in-law's Chevrolet, every time you turn off the car it very loudly announces for you to "please check if you haven't left any belongings in the back seat" (or some nonsense like that).

So every time he drops us off late at night the car screaming wakes the baby when we arrive.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

#143
My appliances are not allowed to have strong opinions. And when they have opinions at all, they’re not allowed to communicate them except for the most subtle of ways. “Oh you’re emitting a nice, quiet ring because you think the fridge door has been open too long? That’s nice, it’s going to be open a bit longer.”

Heaven help my toaster if it ever stops mid toast because it thinks the bread is already done.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

#144

I recently bought a 32" 4K monitor. Two different models were at at that point inexpensive enough to tempt me. A smart one, and different brand, dumb one for $50 more. I bought the latter. I'm happy. The market decides, right? What is actually happening here? 1. Most people actually like this overdone gimmickry? 2. Most people think they will like it, buy it and then get sick of it? Thus people like me, who seek out…

> 3. Most people would prefer not to have it, but due to a free market failure, the ungimmicked product just isn't available any more?

No, I'd go with (4) people would prefer not to have it, but companies know that they can monitize the data they collect[0] and thus are willing to offer a discount that's large enough to get people (who may or may not know about the data collection) to buy the smart™ version.

[0]: https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2019/02/21/w...

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

#145

I recently bought a 32" 4K monitor. Two different models were at at that point inexpensive enough to tempt me. A smart one, and different brand, dumb one for $50 more. I bought the latter. I'm happy. The market decides, right? What is actually happening here? 1. Most people actually like this overdone gimmickry? 2. Most people think they will like it, buy it and then get sick of it? Thus people like me, who seek out…

I would guess that the company believes it can extract ($50+cost of the gimmickry) from the people who buy the gimmicky product.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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It might be a good idea to take account of how long the door stays open. For me, making a cup of tea involves opening the fridge door twice but for less than a second on each occasion: to get the milk out, and to put the milk back. There's an alternative, of course: opening it once and leaving it open for about ten seconds. Timings are approximate. In any case, I don't need e-mail about it. I hope there's an "unsubsc…

Since cold air is denser, I always understood that when you open a vertical cooler the cold air just flows out like a fluid (gas) and is displaced by warm air. This is also why it's good to keep your fridge full, so that it has some thermal mass to it. It's also one of the reasons horizontal freezers are so efficient.

To the extent even that supermarkets can get away with having completely open-topped aisle-long chest freezers.

Matthias Wandel has done some related fridge/freezer experiments I saw recently via Youtube:

https://woodgears.ca/heating/freezer.html https://woodgears.ca/heating/fridge.html

(Particularly the (upright) freezer one is more directly about temperature & door opening, from what I recall.)

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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I have a semi-related anecdote about surprises from devices. I use a CPAP. After a year, I went back to the doctor for a followup, and was asked to bring the SD card so they could review the data it collects. The device records the times and duration of use, various settings, and some metrics on breathing (apnea events, etc). I knew it recorded this stuff on an SD card. I brought the card to the appointment, but the…

Interesting, this was made super clear to me, and even included instructions to leave it plugged in for at least 40 minutes after waking up in the morning so it can communicate. Generally the insurance companies don't like paying for supplies for people who aren't actually using them, and need to see that you use it for an average of 4 hours per night or whatever.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

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It should also have an arm on the door to slap your hand when you open it for the 41st time in a day. I mean, that's insane, you deserve a slap. Btw, this reminds me a bit of my parent's Renault that would tell me every damn time I started it to follow traffic regulations. I wish I could slap that car and it would feel it. And then there's my father-in-law's Mazda, which has a GPS system that sometimes finds him 200…

> full screen! Despite talking the time to make the display show you only relevant things in settings

This is a long standing gripe I have with the Apple Watch too—a busy group chat can effectively DDoS you out of being able to use the thing, because notifications are always full screen. There’s also a ~2 second delay before a notification can actually be dismissed, because it has to complete its swoopy animation first.

It doesn’t sound too bad, but when your average interaction with a smart watch is 10 seconds or less it becomes a real annoyance.

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

#149

I recently bought a 32" 4K monitor. Two different models were at at that point inexpensive enough to tempt me. A smart one, and different brand, dumb one for $50 more. I bought the latter. I'm happy. The market decides, right? What is actually happening here? 1. Most people actually like this overdone gimmickry? 2. Most people think they will like it, buy it and then get sick of it? Thus people like me, who seek out…

Could you please share a link to the dumb one you ended up purchasing?

Re: Our fridge just emailed us to say we opened its door too many times

#150

How long until some manufacturer sells a basic fridge and then a 'frequent use service pack' monthly fee that lets you open the door more than the standard number of times a day?

BMW sells cars that need an paying upgrade in order to use some of the hardware. https://www.carscoops.com/2021/04/bmw-makes-you-pay-for-soft...
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