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Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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You're being rapidly downvoted but to play devil's advocate I wonder if you could explain why you think "American leftism" is "disturbing".

if he uses the word "leftism" he can't say anything coherent about politics

What would you call it?

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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People who don't see why platforms like these are critically important has never had an opinion that isn't allowed on the major tech platforms.

I don't think Lemmy wants to be open to different opinions either: https://github.com/innereq/lenny#the-lemmy-problem

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Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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Lemmy's default instance leans heavily to the contemporary american idea of leftism. This doesn't affect the actual software in any way, only that community is a bit disturbing.

Hmm... disturbing? The United States leftism leans heavily to the contemporary idea of all other developed western nations rightism... so are we to be seen as a bit disturbing by the rest of our nation peers? (hint, they mostly seem to :D )

I'm an european center/leftist and I have no idea what you're talking about.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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post #34

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You're being rapidly downvoted but to play devil's advocate I wonder if you could explain why you think "American leftism" is "disturbing".

I'm not the person you replied to, but today's American leftism practically mandates a belief in blank-slatism on race, gender, and IQ, to an extent that’s inimical to sincere science in those areas. And that ends up having a wide impact on science generally and policy generally.

"I don't want to be a product of my environment, I want the environment to be a product of me."

^So that's where this quote came from, TIL..

https://quillette.com/2017/01/12/the-blank-slateism-of-the-r...

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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post #115

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By and large what “isn’t allowed” on major tech platforms is racist, xenophobic, and homophobic content. You can still find a lot of non-PC, fringe content on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and Reddit. I get that censorship in major tech platforms is problematic, but the sense of martyrdom in comments like yours feels a little overwrought.

Are you even paying attention? This isn't true. You can be censored from social media for all sorts these days. This last year we had a UK media organisation banned from YouTube for questioning the UK COVID response. People in the US are no longer allowed to question the legitimacy of their elections on most social media platforms. Even US media outlets like the NYPost were censored for running stories Twitter didn't…

>People in the US are no longer allowed to question the legitimacy of their elections on most social media platforms.

You mean, they aren't allowed to spread absolute blatant lies and falsehoods, that have already caused at least one deadly riot, in an attempt to overthrow a fair and legitimate election that just happened to not be convenient for their personal agenda? Good.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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post #85

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How strange they would include word filters that are hard to edit. Seems counter to their whole mission...what? Edit: actually it would make sense if word filters themselves were hard to add. But having their own filter and making that hard to edit is bonkers.

Reading the whole bug, it's literally a political stance with no teeth or real purpose. It's bizarrely all for show, serves no real purpose, is functionally deficient, and the DEVs know this. Further, a 10 line script could easily patch each new version, replacing the hardcoded code with a loadable text file. Done. Updates would take zero time to deploy. It's all about taking a position. Taking a position is fine. Bu…

In this case it's really about the burden of community moderation. It's a fairly impotent restriction, and yet it serves the social function of discouraging a certain sort from making Lemmy their home. Most Reddit alternatives become really scummy because they attract the people (not "the kind of people", the literal individuals) who get banned from Reddit for pushing anti-Semitism, racism, and misogyny past what Reddit allows. There are a lot of people who thus think "the whole point" of a Reddit-like that isn't Reddit is to be able to post the really awful stuff. The filter obviously doesn't work well to reliably block it -- but it does seem to work to drive off the folks who are looking for a cesspool.

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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The front-end is still buggy and needs a designer's touch. And the real-time aspects wear thin at scale with all the notifications in a mismatch of languages showing up in the main feed. Lemmy is practically unusable without a personal feed filter, it seems that of the new reddit alternatives only retalk_[1] want to get this right. If you do decide to run an instance of lemmy be sure to nuke the absurd word filter -…

The problem with Retalk is this: It’s closed sourced. If we want to talk about Reddit alternatives, I would rather we look at ones which are open source, including Reddit itself until 2017 [1], the Mastodon Twitter-like web app [2], Discourse [3], Lemmy [4] (use a fork [5] if you can’t stand the slur filter), and the old school PHP discussions boards like PhpBB [6] and MyBB [7]. [1] https://github.com/reddit-archive/…

Also see https://sic.pm and https://github.com/epilys/tade for a web no-js link aggregator/mailing list/nntp solution

Re: Lemmy – A link aggregator for the fediverse

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post #147
post #85

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Reading the whole bug, it's literally a political stance with no teeth or real purpose. It's bizarrely all for show, serves no real purpose, is functionally deficient, and the DEVs know this. Further, a 10 line script could easily patch each new version, replacing the hardcoded code with a loadable text file. Done. Updates would take zero time to deploy. It's all about taking a position. Taking a position is fine. Bu…

In this case it's really about the burden of community moderation. It's a fairly impotent restriction, and yet it serves the social function of discouraging a certain sort from making Lemmy their home. Most Reddit alternatives become really scummy because they attract the people (not "the kind of people", the literal individuals) who get banned from Reddit for pushing anti-Semitism, racism, and misogyny past what Red…

But we aren't talking about a single centralised community. This is a part of the fediverse (decentralised) and where anyone can create a server to host their own community.

If the lemmy team wants to have their slur filter for their "official" instance, they are free to. However, part of being decentralised is to give people the power to run their communities as they see fit and so they shouldn't be beholden to the infallible lemmy devs to maintain a slur list that the community can't manage themselves. Maybe they want to add or remove slurs or remove this filtering entirely, it isn't the place of the lemmy devs to decide that for them.

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