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Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by marcodiego »

exporectomy wrote: post #95
marcodiego wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Windows is everywhere. Not on the cellphone, smartv, router, supercomputer, webserver or tablet I use. Actually, they all run the same (with some customization) kernel.

The comment was about importance, not popularity. Those aren't mainly used for important work. If people are paying you to use the software, it's probably important to them.

> Those aren't mainly used for important work.

Tablets, smartphones and smart tvs have been of increasing importance on education activities, specially after the pandemic. My router is used for ALL my internet traffic, important or not. Webservers... basically most of what most things people do online. And supercomputers are right now doing high relevancy tasks like running climate models, simulating protein folding, drug interactions and improving vehicle's safety.

I'd disagree those aren't mainly used for important work.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by flutterwascrap »

mkr-hn wrote: post #45
jussij wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Windows 10 really that good? It's been some time now, but I still remember the first time I upgraded away from Windows 7 and feeling disappointed. Since then my hardware is massively more powerful, but I'm still to be convinced my current Windows 10 setup is better than that older Windows 7 setup.

They launched it at -90/10 and it's up to 7/10.

Like flutter?

Edit: Seriously, they fixed 5000 flaming bugs in 2.2 release. God knows how many more are there.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by fomine3 »

danparsonson wrote: post #133
marcodiego wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually the 2 sets of settings is understandable. They probably had to give it the "modern look" but for compatibility and how users were used to the old "control panel" they had to keep it too. And now you have both!

The different settings apps that claim to manage the same thing don't cover the same settings. The old apps are not still there to support users who don't like the new look, they're there because the new apps are insufficient and cover an overlapping but different set of configuration. It's thoroughly confusing and frankly a terrible design choice.

Another reason why old control panes still alive is that new settings app isn't customizable by 3rd parties. Some 3rd party drivers added custom configuration panel on control panel and old drivers remain forever on windows world.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by shkkmo »

nightski wrote: post #132
errantspark wrote: post #23

It's so mind boggling to me that we're okay with this level of uncertainty about the systems we rely on every day. I run LTSC with updates disabled because the idea that something that's working one day would stop working the next drives me up the wall. I have a linux phone (which is awful) because at least when that breaks it's my fault and I can always just put it back into a known working state. I hate how my rela…

This is in a pre-release build. I'm not happy to hear about it, but in reality Windows 10 has been incredibly reliable. Can't remember the last time I saw a crash to be honest, and I use it for 8-10 hours a day most of the time.

You mean the same windows 10 that I never bother to boot into because every time I do various services decide to do so many indexing and updating tasks that it pegs the hard drive at 100% for hours?

I should be able to launch windows every couple of months without having to wait so long to do anything that I forget why I even booted into windows in the first place.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by flutterwascrap »

hfktktnfkgk wrote: post #8

One bug I've been hitting for a couple of years on Windows 10: If the computer starts with a working Internet connection, but then you lose Internet, Start Menu search just stops working during net downtime. Meaning I type some app name like "calc" in the Start Menu search box and nothing appears! Which is absolutely ridiculous, I can't search for locally installed apps, or Windows settings. Even if I disabled Cortan…

Haven't happened to me on my desktop. Maybe try updating? File a bug report?

The start menu web search is actually really good for quickly searching for things.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by fulafel »

gryn wrote: post #30
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What games specifically? Because I've been doing 100% of my gaming on Linux lately and it works quite nice.

Almost any online game will not work because of anticheat software designed specifically for windows. I personally just decided to give up on the online games instead.

Xbox, Geforce Now and Stadia streaming etc are another option.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by flutterwascrap »

heyitsguay wrote: post #12
INTPenis wrote: post #9

I will begrudgingly use windows 11 at some point because of the games you can play on it. But for anything else I'm so glad Linux and its ecosystem exists, and is only getting more stable lately. Windows gives me heartburn.

If you're playing games through Steam and haven't checked out Proton in a while, give it another try! The only game I haven't been able to get work on Ubuntu 16/18/20 is Fallout 3.

I would like to but the performance is a dealbreaker. If I'm on windows, I can expect to run latest titles at 60 fps on my 4 year old rig. That isn't possible on wine/proton.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by swiley »

flutterwascrap wrote: post #148
heyitsguay wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're playing games through Steam and haven't checked out Proton in a while, give it another try! The only game I haven't been able to get work on Ubuntu 16/18/20 is Fallout 3.

I would like to but the performance is a dealbreaker. If I'm on windows, I can expect to run latest titles at 60 fps on my 4 year old rig. That isn't possible on wine/proton.

Provided some garbage from either Microsoft or your hardware vendor isn’t sucking up all the I/O or CPU which has consistently been my experience the last few times I’ve suffered Windows.

Re: Misbehaving Microsoft Teams ad brings down the entire Windows 11 desktop

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Post by mycall »

BuyMyBitcoins wrote: post #105
userbinator wrote: post #92

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Windows have no toolbars, title bars, or borders to distinguish them from the one they're overlapping. ...and let's not forget removing color from the active window's titlebar, so it was eye-searingly white like all the others, then reluctantly adding it back as an optional setting in an "update" later. https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/how-to-resto... When stuff like that seems to happen almost regular…

Bleach white minimalism is the thing I lament the most about 21st century design. And, when designers reluctantly put color and contrast back in, they tend to just give you light grays.

I'm looking forward to the return of baroque UX. It's been a few hundred years, but what the hay.
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